Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Do we stay away from players from specific schools?


Recommended Posts

I don't think this is intentional but, I always wonder why we don't target players from higher profile colleges. Teams that win championships like Alabama,FSU, and Clemson don't have a large presence on our team. To me those school land the big time recruits out of high school thus,probably have higher athletic upside. Does that correlate to the lack of team speed or athletic upside? Or is this a part of a underlying problem that we assume kids from certain programs have more red flags or off the field issues? Is that why we chose Moore over Ridley? This is largely just offseason banter and I don't put a ton of stock in it but,It's clear our roster doesn't have a large presence from certain school who produce nation championships on a regular basis. If it was me my team would probably be full of bama kids or fsu kids kind of like the eagles who just won the chip.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I was wondering the same thing, but more so if we just avoid weather coast, but I didn't watch the whole draft, nor do I have any clue who we drafted after rd3, so idk if we went west coast or not haha, just always seems we draft close to home

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You can’t put too much stock into high school. See Jimmy Clausen and Tyler Brayton. Alabama’s front 7 wins them championships but are not a direct scheme fit for us and they do not overpower NFL OL like they did at bama. We just drafted an LSU corner. I’m sure we’d draft Ferrell from Clemson in 19’ given the opportunity.

 

The best WR in the league went to Central Michigan, best QB Michigan, best RB Michigan St, best TE Arizona, best DT Pittsburgh, best LB Boston College, etc.

they all come from different teams

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This isn’t true. We may not draft certain players that played certain schemes but we have had players from all of those colleges, usually udfa but still we do sign them. Even this draft we signed a Clemson udfa, we did last year as well. Roman Harper and Robert Lester are two safeties that I remember off the top of my head. We also traded for Kevin Norwood who played for Alabama a few years ago.

 

Cam Newton is from a national championship team.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

MARYLAND / LSU / TENNESSEE / INDIANA / OLE MISS / MARYLAND / UNC / MIA 

The above are all the colleges we drafted players from, all are fairly close to our own ''region'' as a Carolina centered sports franchise. The above colleges cover the following:

Big 10 / SEC / ACC 

That's about as power conference affiliated as you're gonna get for the most part. 

Even the UDFA's hail from schools like - CLEMSON / PENN ST / LOUISVILLE / WV / MICH ST / OHIO ST / HOUSTON

So to say we stay away from specific schools isn't really founded on anything of substance. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Also Alabama runs a 3-4, players from their front seven would not fit our base 4-3 scheme for those that would bang that drum. Notice that Payne this year and Allen last both went to WAS <<< a 3-4 defensive front. 

Some of you guys should really start to consider what these colleges run, on offense / defense, and try to cross reference it with what we do, that in and of itself will help provide some clarity on potential draftees, or even schemes a FA is coming from. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Swaggasaurus said:

You can’t put too much stock into high school. See Jimmy Clausen and Tyler Brayton. Alabama’s front 7 wins them championships but are not a direct scheme fit for us and they do not overpower NFL OL like they did at bama. We just drafted an LSU corner. I’m sure we’d draft Ferrell from Clemson in 19’ given the opportunity.

 

The best WR in the league went to Central Michigan, best QB Michigan, best RB Michigan St, best TE Arizona, best DT Pittsburgh, best LB Boston College, etc.

they all come from different teams

 

In essence, individuals are recruited, not schools. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

Also Alabama runs a 3-4, players from their front seven would not fit our base 4-3 scheme for those that would bang that drum. Notice that Payne this year and Allen last both went to WAS <<< a 3-4 defensive front. 

Some of you guys should really start to consider what these colleges run, on offense / defense, and try to cross reference it with what we do, that in and of itself will help provide some clarity on potential draftees, or even schemes a FA is coming from. 

What about Alabama’s offensive line? They run a power heavy run which I would say would translate to what we do well and they have a history of landing the top graded offensive line prospects..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, Swaggasaurus said:

You can’t put too much stock into high school. See Jimmy Clausen and Tyler Brayton. Alabama’s front 7 wins them championships but are not a direct scheme fit for us and they do not overpower NFL OL like they did at bama. We just drafted an LSU corner. I’m sure we’d draft Ferrell from Clemson in 19’ given the opportunity.

 

The best WR in the league went to Central Michigan, best QB Michigan, best RB Michigan St, best TE Arizona, best DT Pittsburgh, best LB Boston College, etc.

they all come from different teams

 

 

You picked 2 of the worst case senerios... but on average most of all the top players who are recruited out 5 Star or so are drafted. A lot of them go on to be stars at a higher rate.. Derwin James Eric berry Adrian Peterson and so on. The percentages lean towards if your Going to guess its better to guess on a kid who has been rated a top athlete for 7-8 years of his life than some unknown.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • They traded away their 1st next year also to get James Pearce Jr. Really hope this blows up in the Falcons face. I don't care how it happens, I just want to win the division this year. Zero sympathy for other team's issues. And our pass rush looks like it needs all the help it can get.
    • I would have released him this season, tbh and worked with Christensen out there. 
    • 10/10. We're due for some good luck, and I think this team is much better than what we've had the last 2 seasons. Defensive injuries could derail us b/c our depth there is still questionable. Still worried about the pass rush getting pressure without blitzing. Pleasantly surprised by the secondary and run defense.  Dan Morgan has done a lot to resurrect this roster from the deplorable position Fitterer left it in by showing some scouting chops with hitting on these guys drafted in the later rounds or UDFAs. Lathan Ransom & Corey Thornton both look like they fit this scheme and the NFL isn't too big for them.  I'm as excited for the rookie trifecta of T-Mac, Scourton, and Princely as I can remember. On paper, this offense is the most talented since 2021, maybe 2017, and maybe 2015. None of that means this team will produce any better, but this team has offensive talent & depth like we have rarely had in team history. If you don't believe me, go Google it. We've had some awful offensive collections overall in many years, to varying degrees mitigated by superstar talents like Steve Smith, Christian Mccaffrey, or Cam Newton.  I honestly think the collective offensive talent in 2025 may be better, but Cam was so otherworldly in 2015 & 2017 that he covered any flaws. Seriously, though, Cam doesnt get enough love for 2017. I think that may have been his best season. In general, Cam doesn't get enough respect IMHO. Both in college and in the NFL, Cam took teams that without him would have had no chance and won. True definition of a guy who elevated his team. To be clear, I am in no way am I saying this team will be better than 2017 or 2015. My point is that the offensive talent is there on offense if Bryce can unlock it.  I've been a Bryce supporter, but there are no excuses not to perform with this group. This isn't the disaster we gave him in 2023 or a new scheme like in 2024 where I think he hadn't mentally removed from his rookie season to start. I dont know how you couldnt be excited about that. And we still compete in a division that isn't insurmountable. I got got in 2023 like most of us in buying into the team propaganda, but in general, I think I'm pretty realistic about the team. I knew in my heart we would be bad last year. I wasnt expecting the defense to be that bad or Bryce to start off that poorly, but I had no expectations whatsoever for making the playoffs. And I genuinely think we will be competitive all year this season. I think we win 8-9 games and compete for the division. I think the ceiling is 11 wins, and the floor is 7. The good news is after next week, we will all be proven right or proven wrong. Keep Pounding!
×
×
  • Create New...