For the Fire Rivera Group

[davos]

If we get rid of Rivera, you have to go younger and a totally different direction.  No retreads, no coordinators who've never gotten their shot (maybe it's for a reason), and no life long defensive/ST guys.  No Jim Schwartzs, Dave Toubs or Rick Dennisons.  Think of the Hornets signing with Borrego.  

Jim Bob Cooter, John DeFilippo, Brian Daboll.  

With Daboll--for how god awful the Bills should be, their offense is somehow moving the ball with Josh Allen.  If he gets them rolling with Derek Anderson, I think that would be a guy to look at.  He's 43, was Bama's OC, has prior NFL experience.  

Cooter and DeFilippo have lost some flare from performances this season after being previously mega-hyped but I think both will be HCs in the near future.  

[MHS831]

This thread was contrived on faulty logic.  Nowhere in sports do you accept mediocrity or worse because you can't think of anyone better.  Better is out there--you have to find it.  If you can think of someone better, then they are not better or they would have a job.

  I would rather take a chance on a prospect than accept the current prognosis

[davos]

Just now, MHS831 said:

This thread was contrived on faulty logic.  Nowhere in sports do you accept mediocrity or worse because you can't think of anyone better.  Better is out there--you have to find it.  If you can think of someone better, then they are not better or they would have a job.

  I would rather take a chance on a prospect that accept the current prognosis

Agreed

[Mr. Scot]

31 minutes ago, Toomers said:

 Yes. In 2013, the Eagles should have not gotten rid off Andy Reid to hire Chip Kelly. 

  Using your logic, you can justify getting rid of any coach, eventually. Sooner or later, some other coach will do well too. 

Now, your turn. Do you think the chances we improve if we fire Rivera are greater than the chances we get worse? 

I said you can't spin the question, remember? You don't get to pretend that Kelly is still their coach.

So lemme rephrase it again: Comparing where they were with Reid to where they are right now under Doug Pederson, should the Eagles have hung on to Reid instead?

[jumpman910]

1 hour ago, mc52beast said:

It’s pretty simple... you want Ron gone. Who do you want to replace him? Don’t bring up Tepper, he has nothing to do with this discussion. Who do YOU want coaching the team? It ain’t rocket science 

Bro he's dodging the easiest question that's been asked in this thread. It's comical at this point, how does someone want change but can't name anyone to take over. 

It'll take Ron and Co to completely fall on their faces to get fired, people forget we have the 5th most wins in the league since 2012 or 2013. 

[jumpman910]

Plus what's the guarantee that Cam and the other vets respect a young coach, it worked for the rams because they've been horrid or average for almost a decade and have a 2nd year qb. 

[Fox007]

30 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

This thread was contrived on faulty logic.  Nowhere in sports do you accept mediocrity or worse because you can't think of anyone better.  Better is out there--you have to find it.  If you can think of someone better, then they are not better or they would have a job.

  I would rather take a chance on a prospect than accept the current prognosis

This thread was contrived off 0 logic at all rofl.

Scot and CP done owned the thread so at this point it's just two morons looking dumber and dumber.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

This thread was contrived on faulty logic.  Nowhere in sports do you accept mediocrity or worse because you can't think of anyone better.  Better is out there--you have to find it.  If you can think of someone better, then they are not better or they would have a job.

  I would rather take a chance on a prospect than accept the current prognosis

Valid.

One question I'd ask of anyone throwing out the "you can't fire a guy who's had the team in the playoffs" argument, how did you feel about firing Gettleman?

[GRWatcher]

For history's sake, if we ever hire an offensive minded coach it would not be the first time. Remember Seifert? I, along with probably everyone else, would like to forget about him. But he was our coach from 1999 to 2001.

This thread has been interesting but I have no horse in this race. 

[Shocker]

This team has been stale since the Super Bowl.  We need a new coaching staff.

[Fox007]

13 minutes ago, GRWatcher said:

For history's sake, if we ever hire an offensive minded coach it would not be the first time. Remember Seifert? I, along with probably everyone else, would like to forget about him. But he was our coach from 1999 to 2001.

This thread has been interesting but I have no horse in this race. 

I know you're not being like that and it isn't your intent but imma be sarcastic anyway, just in case there are those out there that would run with your post.

"Yea cuz that one time we had a offensive minded HC and it didn't work out makes up for the rest of the history of the team, which hasn't worked out either"

[Ivan The Awesome]

6 hours ago, billionairemonk said:

i honestly believe Rivera is very close to being an above average head coach, he just needs to adjust his philosophy to match the NFL in 2018 and let go of the '85 bears mentality.

Hi Mr Tepper.

[Cary Kollins]

Next time OP just ask your question without being defensive about Rivera right off the bat. Maybe then folks will take the question seriously. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, GRWatcher said:

For history's sake, if we ever hire an offensive minded coach it would not be the first time. Remember Seifert? I, along with probably everyone else, would like to forget about him. But he was our coach from 1999 to 2001.

This thread has been interesting but I have no horse in this race. 

Seifert was a defensive coordinator and a defensive backs coach before he became a head coach.

I'd add but from what I've heard, Seifert was a colossal a--hole.