David Newton trying to start some controversy

[bigdavis]

15 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

How about those of us that (1) believes that law enforcement absolutely shows negative and harmful bias (intentional *and* unintentional) toward the African-American community and supports efforts towards reining in the bias, power, and violence that law enforcement inflicts on those communities,  but also believes (2) that a kneeling protest while the flag and national anthem are presented is not only disrespectful, but damaging to the very cause that Reid supports (that is if his goal is to convince people to understand and/or agree with his cause and what he is trying to say with his protest)?

Believe it or not, one can fully belief both of the above things simultaneously.

The flag is merely a symbol, yes.  But it is the symbol that draped and protected my buddie's coffins as they returned home from overseas after sacrificing their last full measure.  I have a fetish about respecting it because of that.

But, at the same time, I have other buddies who have sinned the great sin of being pulled over/arrested for the serious crime (<-- please note sarcasm) of "driving while black" (and that's just one of the *minor* offenses for which African-American communities experience bias from law enforcement).

Those are two separate sets of experiences which honestly, and with all due respect, inform how I feel about this issue.

The issue (of objecting to police brutality) might be better amplified to more Americans, if the kneeling took place outside police stations, say, rather than during sacred rituals that symbolize patriotism to our country.  It would be more directly addressed, wouldn't it?  I wonder how many of the Huddle (or any segment of the population) know how this whole kneeling thing began - because CK's girlfriend is an avowed Marxist, whose goal was not to correct "social injustice", but to directly obstruct the government.  He was her tool to be used towards that end.

[CatTower]

28 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Why would it upset anyone when kneeling is a universal sign of reverence and respect. This part I just don't understand at all. 

Because they have been brainwashed by mass media.  It also distracts from his true purpose, which aids the opposition - not the Military???

[therealmjl]

@IceWhiteice and @PantherNation123 a couple turds

[GRWatcher]

5 hours ago, CatTower said:

Kneeling isn't a big deal.  If he wanted to disrespect the flag, he'd be off to the side dancing and ignoring it.

Fred Lane was suspended one game for just about doing that exact thing. Intent matters. 

[Pandora's Box]

Now that they do not get television time to "protest" during the national anthem,  this will fade away and be forgotten. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

7 hours ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

Reid has a pretty good point. Also, it’s not disrespectful to the military or the flag. 

Says you.  

To me it is extremely disrespectful.  

Maybe you didn't serve.  Ever seen a casket with a Flag draped over it?   

It is disrespectful. 

[Sasquatch]

6 hours ago, jfra78 said:

No, kneeling IS a respectful gesture, you cant say it isnt.  Throughout the history of man kneeling has been a sign of respect.  Just because Trump says it isnt, now people have a problem with it.

That's your opinion and your interpretation of the act. Trump states his opinion. I have my own.

[USDepartmentOfSavagery]

The military should feel disrespected by the absolute disgrace of a system the VA is and how little the government cares for them once their shelf life expires. That’s something the military should be offended by. And if you support the military, that should offend you more than Teod kneeling. 

[USDepartmentOfSavagery]

2 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Says you.  

To me it is extremely disrespectful.  

Maybe you didn't serve.  Ever seen a casket with a Flag draped over it?   

It is disrespectful. 

I have. More than once lol. Doesn’t make his kneeling disrespectful. 

[Sasquatch]

1 hour ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

The military should feel disrespected by the absolute disgrace of a system the VA is and how little the government cares for them once their shelf life expires. That’s something the military should be offended by. And if you support the military, that should offend you more than Teod kneeling. 

You sound as though people are not allowed to be offended by more than 1 thing. In actuality, that would probably be nice, but it not only is not true, it's not possible.

[Moo Daeng]

We should start by ignoring him and not sparking a another repeat of the same debate every week 

[The Natural]

 

[bLACKpANTHER]

11 hours ago, Definitely Not Trolling said:

Has anyone ever pointed out to Eric Reid's that trying to fight an officer might get you shot

 

or walking towards a cop.. or sitting still.. or running away.. or laying on the ground.. or standing with your hands up.. or if you are a kid playing with a toy gun in a park and within 2 seconds of the cop arriving you get gunned down..

but at least when this type of "malpractice" happens - we hold the cops accountable..... wait.....

[Navy_football]

To all those offended by players kneeling during the Anthem - at least you're talking about it and that's the point.

I'm an African American veteran. Graduated from, and played football at the United States Naval Academy. Served 7 years as an officer in the United States Navy.

I've been pulled over at least 5 times in my own neighborhood driving a Mercedes, usually wearing at least a buttoned shirt and sometimes even a tie - for extremely petty reasons. One officer even told me there had been a few break-ins in the neighborhood so they were being extra careful. Why did he choose to pull me over because of break-ins instead of all the other cars on the road? Was I dressed like I had just broken into someone's house and stole their Mercedes?

You can stick your head in the sand if you want and think it isn't a problem, but it is. Everyone won't respond to a ridiculous stop like I do - black or white. And they certainly don't deserve to die because they openly protest to being targetted solely based on their skin color. 

And this isn't a new issue. Like many other problems in our society, social media has brought real-time attention to it, via undeniable video evidence. Yet, police officers still get off with a few months of paid leave after taking a life with no real threat to their own safety. 

For those of you that are familiar with Columbia, S.C., I'm from a neighborhood right off Two Notch and Beltline - Belvedere. The police has never been shy about telling or showing you how they feel about black people on that side of town. I've since learned to love men and women that serve, but it hasn't always been that way. With the way I was treated by police as a teenager, I could easily be a statistic. A dead black 15-year old that was disrespectful to the authority of the badge, even though the badge disrespected me first.