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Locker room chemistry this year


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What changed? With so many veterans, I am shocked that we haven’t been a closer unit. Everyone remembers the all time high that was the 2015 and how the team played together. My question is.....what changed this year? Was it because vets spoke up too late? The people we brought in? Coaches not holding the vets accountable? 

Let me know what you think 

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Lack of accountability from the staff. It begins at the very top.

The entire identity of this franchise is centered around the mantra of "keep pounding", yet after giving up 45 points in primetime our first order of business was to take time off and not even watch film? Need a new head coach.

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Chemistry is everything with a team sport, especially with football. Losing Coleman hurt as he was a leader. Going back to 2015 we miss J-No's swag. We may have too many "quiet" leaders on Defense (Luke is a leader on the field like a general, not a Ra Ra type guy). CJ gave some swag and vocal leadership while Peppers is quietly doing his job. Star was quiet but he did his job, which kept blockers off Luke and the LBers. The defense needs swag. To fly to the ball. Love KK, Shaq, Bradberry and Adams but all mellow guys who do their jobs well. Defenses need attitude. 

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2 minutes ago, Nice-Carolina-Chuck said:

Back in the days, fooball players came to work and play football. 

These millennials act like they want to play football for work. They come to dress pretty and dance around in practices and pre-game. 

This is the problem with my Panthers ^^^

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24 minutes ago, musicman said:

We may have too many "quiet" leaders on Defense

(Luke is a leader on the field like a general, not a Ra Ra type guy). 

Wut? He's a "general" AND a "ra ra" type, often both at the same time.

Google some Sound Fx and Mic'd Up vids of 59. There are more examples, but here's a fairly recent one to get you started:

 

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13 minutes ago, Nice-Carolina-Chuck said:

Back in the days, fooball players came to work to play football. 

These millennials act like they want to play football for work. They come to dress pretty and dance around in practices and pre-game. 

What a stupid fuging hot take.

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I don't know if it did.

It's possible to have a group of guys who have phenomenal chemistry with each other but just aren't very good. That becomes more likely when as a group, they're kind of on the old side.

It's also true that even if your roster is good and your chemistry is great, you're still likely to lose if your coaching is sh-t.

If you want an example...

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Nice-Carolina-Chuck said:

Back in the days, fooball players came to work to play football. 

These millennials act like they want to play football for work. They come to dress pretty and dance around in practices and pre-game. 

 

Not only that...  Some of these boneheads get an average tackle and runs 30 yards down the field and thumps his chest...  Look at me !!

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48 minutes ago, Nice-Carolina-Chuck said:

I really think that this team is a Cam Newton away from being a really bad team. We can win without Luke. We cant win without Cam. Even though he may not be Drew Brees or Brady as a passer, we won many of games bc of Cam. 

But as a QB, Cam is not just the face of the franchise. But more so the LEADER of this team. For 50 other players. I say this bc I feel like Cam lack true leadership. Seems like he’s too busy having fun and dancing around. I think it sends a wrong message to some other guys like Luke and TD when your QB after a LOSS goes into an interview dressing better than Gisele Bundchen. 

All we’ve seen and heard before the season started was Cam being the DJ during practices. Im okay with having fun but when it’s time to work, go WORK!  When you do things right and win, the fun comes with it. You can have fun all day, but when you lose it aint fun.

We won without Luke because this team has always been loaded at lb(AJ Klein). Who would you replace him with today and say the defense will be fine?

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I think Peppers is back to doing what he did and just going through the motions and that rubbed off on everyone else on the DLine. I think the team is over hearing TD preach. Eric Reid may have just separated that locker room. The secondary sucks in general. Torrey Smith and Reid are too damn vocal about political poo and ended up being bad pickups. The veterans just don't care anymore b/c much like this fanbase, they've seen this before. Peppers even said it. That's a Hurney product BTW. Hopefully he gets the can this morning.

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1 minute ago, RumHam said:

I think Peppers is back to doing what he did and just going through the motions and that rubbed off on everyone else on the DLine. I think the team is over hearing TD preach. Eric Reid may have just separated that locker room. The secondary sucks in general. Torrey Smith and Reid are too damn vocal about political poo and ended up being bad pickups. The veterans just don't care anymore b/c much like this fanbase, they've seen this before. Peppers even said it. That's a Hurney product BTW. Hopefully he gets the can this morning.

I told everyone this was going to be the case from the day he was signed. Sadly, he has a cause, but people choose sides and I guarantee the players are no different. 

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Pretty sure the locker room is split between those who put it all on the line and want to win and those who are either too old to contribute and those who got paid and staying after or doing extra is not worth it to them.

all coached by people who don’t have the ability to get their attention

the answer is more simple than it seems -cut the fat, take the dead space for a year and build. 

2020 team will be competitive.

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