Matt Kahlil fuged this team hard

[Car123]

3 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Matt Kalil seems far more like a Richardson signing than a Gettleman.  Family connection etc...

Regardless, it clearly didn't work out.

I'm tired of this excuse being made for DG. He couldn't sign players to big contracts because we didn't have space. We finally had money in 2017 and his true color was revealed. Terrible contracts to Kalil, Munnerlyn, and Shepard.

[Carolina Cajun]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He might be a better fit at right tackle but he is a much, much, much, much better fit at LT than Matt Kalil and Chris Clark. 

I will give that there may not have been mutual interest in Whitworth. We don't know if either we or he had any and we will likely never know. I suppose it doesn't really matter at this point. Hearing either scenario wouldn't remove Matt Kalil's bloated contract.

I 100% agree.  Frankly, imo I think move moton to left, William's stay right and we will have decent tackles.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Carolina Cajun said:

I 100% agree.  Frankly, imo I think move moton to left, William's stay right and we will have decent tackles.

I would keep both, regardless of who is playing where. I don't think that will happen though. Williams carries great risk with the injury and the market for OT's is pretty insane. He might command a $12-15 million/year kind of price. I suspect he ends up signing elsewhere, as much as I would hate to see it.

[grimesgoat]

Gettleman had been around just 3-4 years and had hundreds of players to choose from.  

He chose 2 ex-panthers (Peppers and Munnerlyn) and 1 Panther brother (Kalil).  Does that not seem strange to anyone?  Does that not suggest he may have had some limits in the players he could pursue or was perhaps told who to look at?  Does the fact he was then fired and TD/Olsen immediately got new contracts not suggest something?

It seems obvious someone wanted the gang back together again.  I think Gettleman went along with it until he could no longer.

[thefuzz]

9 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

Gettleman had been around just 3-4 years and had hundreds of players to choose from.  

He chose 2 ex-panthers (Peppers and Munnerlyn) and 1 Panther brother (Kalil).  Does that not seem strange to anyone?  Does that not suggest he may have had some limits in the players he could pursue or was perhaps told who to look at?  Does the fact he was then fired and TD/Olsen immediately got new contracts not suggest something?

It seems obvious someone wanted the gang back together again.  I think Gettleman went along with it until he could no longer.

This is called common sense...issue with it however, it's not as common as it should be.

[Cpt slay a ho]

People need to quit with the jr forced dg to sign Matt bs, dude just back up the brinks truck for solder this offseason, same move different team, horrible horrible move that set us back 

[The Natural]

Good moves by Gettleman were because he was genius. Bad moves were because JR would at times cast a spell on him and control his every move. 

[The Natural]

2 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

People need to quit with the jr forced dg to sign Matt bs, dude just back up the brinks truck for solder this offseason, same move different team, horrible horrible move that set us back 

This is a great point. He has a real penchant for spending tons of money on shitty "hog mollies".

[Jmac]

2 hours ago, PanthersBigD said:

I'm not mad at Matt Kalil. I'm mad at Dave Gettleman. Especially after seeing Andrew Whitworth killing it for the Rams. Dave made some terrible long term gambles that have hobbled this team. If someone were to pay me all of that money, I'd take it too. 

I think JR was the wizard behind this deal...trying to keep big brother happy. I'm sure Dave went with the program and did what the owner wanted.

[thefuzz]

12 minutes ago, The Natural said:

Good moves by Gettleman were because he was genius. Bad moves were because JR would at times cast a spell on him and control his every move. 

Bad moves are bad moves, and DG has his share.  Just the same as good ones.

Butler over Henry...didn't like it.  3 corners in a draft...nope.  Signing Turner over Norwell....bad move again.  They all have them.

However, something smells to the high heavens about Captain and Matt Kalil.

[CRA]

GM signed Kalil.  GM screwed us. 

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Bad moves are bad moves, and DG has his share.  Just the same as good ones.

Butler over Henry...didn't like it.  3 corners in a draft...nope.  Signing Turner over Norwell....bad move again.  They all have them.

However, something smells to the high heavens about Captain and Matt Kalil.

I'd say Dave's bad outweighed his good. 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

I'd say Dave's bad outweighed his good. 

Yet we won more games with him in charge than at any other time in team history.

Funny thing about football: Wins and losses actually count. Analyses of free agent moves don't.

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

I'd say Dave's bad outweighed his good. 

You can, but I won't.

Signing Cam to a "team friendly" deal was huge.  Drafting and/or bringing in Moton, Oher, Norwell, Turner, Williams, etc...was fantastic.  Fixed the DT problem that had been killing us for years, while finding a way to field an offense that took us to a 15-1 season, and a trip to the big game.

He wasn't perfect, but outside of the very strange (see absurd) contracts to Kalil and Captain, did very little to put us in a hole long term.