Shaq Thompson to IR

[Jon Snow]

10 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  What about the last 3 years? 

  While you’re telling me how I feel about Shaq(what do my expectations have to do. With his overall play)? We drafted him to be a coverage LB. He is not. Not on TEs or RBs. Show me where he is worth 9.6M in today’s market? Because that is all I said, and I don’t consider him a bust either. And never have. So attacking me and avoiding the issues is way off base here. 

Attacking you?  Dude.  Where did you hear he was drafted to be a coverage LB?   There's actually no such thing by the way.  Ron chose to use him in his Joker package.  And even Ron said he would need at least 500 snaps to come into his own.    Since then he's been limited to whatever role each of the 3 different DC's coverage packages were.  He can cover a TE and RB very well but not a WR, not even Luke can do that consistently.  He will get that 9 mil, if not here somewhere else.

[Mr. Scot]

Makes room for Kyle Allen, I guess.

[mc52beast]

38 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

For the record, I saw the alert from ESPN but I haven't confirmed it anywhere else yet.

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[Paa Langfart]

didn't even know the guy was hurt

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

didn't even know the guy was hurt

Don't know that he was.

[thefuzz]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Don't know that he was.

Yea, this is standard operating procedure for Marty when in losing seasons.

[guffeyp]

I believe that he will be extended. We won't be replacing him and TD in one offseason. He hasn't reached his full potential yet either.

[Mr. Scot]

This points to kind of an important distinction people need to understand on these things.

Placing someone on injured reserve is not a medical decision. It's a football decision. That's why somebody who's hurt a lot worse can be kept on the roster over somebody whose iinjury is relatively minor.

This time of year, pretty much everybody's got something hurting. Injured reserve becomes a primary tool for roster management.

[Toomers]

13 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Attacking you?  Dude.  Where did you hear he was drafted to be a coverage LB?   There's actually no such thing by the way.  Ron chose to use him in his Joker package.  And even Ron said he would need at least 500 snaps to come into his own.    Since then he's been limited to whatever role each of the 3 different DC's coverage packages were.  He can cover a TE and RB very well but not a WR, not even Luke can do that consistently.  He will get that 9 mil, if not here somewhere else.

   Telling me it’s my fault because I don’t know his “real” plays as opposed to all the ones that are the coaches fault. 

   I remember the “Buffalo Nickel”. And that being the reason he was picked. What do you think a Joker/Hybrid S/LB is there for? Pass rush? Run game? And all his DCs used him wrong? All of them? 

  I don’t care if he gets it anywhere. We have too many needs to overpay an OLB. You act like I hate him and think he’s a bust. Just not the player we need at that price. But continue to ovrrreact or find someone who GAS. I’m sure many will call him a bust today. Again. Go find one of them. I stated an opinion with a sound basis that you have done nothing to dispute except make excuses. Give him almost 10M and HOPE the next DC uses him in the right way. 

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, Toomers said:

   Telling me it’s my fault because I don’t know his “real” plays as opposed to all the ones that are the coaches fault. 

   I remember the “Buffalo Nickel”. And that being the reason he was picked. What do you think a Joker/Hybrid S/LB is there for? Pass rush? Run game? And all his DCs used him wrong? All of them? 

  I don’t care if he gets it anywhere. We have too many needs to overpay an OLB. You act like I hate him and think he’s a bust. Just not the player we need at that price. But continue to ovrrreact or find someone who GAS. I’m sure many will call him a bust today. Again. Go find one of them. I stated an opinion with a sound basis that you have done nothing to dispute except make excuses. Give him almost 10M and HOPE the next DC uses him in the right way. 

This obviously means more to you than it does to me so I concede this one to you.   I will say this though, he's the best LB on the team not named Luke Keukly.  If that's not worth keeping then I don't know who is.

[Paa Langfart]

26 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Don't know that he was.

Then why is he on IR ?  Another excuse for a shitty coaching season ?

[Cpt slay a ho]

That might be a wrap for shaq as a panther, unless we sign him to a long term maybe 5.5-6.5 mil a year deal, he’s not worth the 9 mil.

[Raleigh PF]

25 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

This obviously means more to you than it does to me so I concede this one to you.   I will say this though, he's the best LB on the team not named Luke Keukly.  If that's not worth keeping then I don't know who is.

That's an opinion, not a fact. Maybe he is, but for $9M, I'd be willing to bet the Panthers could get a better LB and still have money to spend elsewhere. That's the crux of the argument. If Shaq were returning for a lesser amount, reflective of his contribution (say, $5M or so), I'd be more inclined to bring him back.

[LinvilleGorge]

This is GREAT news. I've been wanting see those two rookie LBs get some run to see what we may or may not have there.

This also reeks of classic Hurney "but look how many guys we had on IR" preemptive excuse making for a disappointing season.