Would you draft this guy?

[rippadonn]

Dalvin Cook

[Sasquatch]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

I understand what you're saying overall, but I don't accept the"it was a female and it wasn't his fight argument" on its face. If someone is attacking my sister, female or not, they're attacking my sister. 

By the way, people plead out for a variety of reasons. We don't have all the facts, and we can simply speculate as to what a jury would have done.

I would expect that you would stop them from attacking your sister. Absolutely no question. He did. But then he felt the need to attack. That was not necessary and even he admitted that it was wrong. 

All we have is that he plead no contest and accepted the same punishment that he would have received had he plead guilty. It certainly could be argued that he only did it to end all the legal crap. Now, an NFL will be speculating and basing a multi-million dollar decision on it. Is he so much better than the next guy on the list to make him worth the risk? 

[cookinbrak]

A different view. It looks more like once his sister started losing the fight, he attacked. And then the rest of the family kicks in.

Edit. And why did Mississippi St try to keep this hidden for 2 years?

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1277634/Jeffery-Simmons-seen-punching-woman-ground-fight.html

[bobcat91]

34 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

A different view. It looks more like once his sister started losing the fight, he attacked. And then the rest of the family kicks in.

Edit. And why did Mississippi St try to keep this hidden for 2 years?

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1277634/Jeffery-Simmons-seen-punching-woman-ground-fight.html

.Mississippi State hid nothing. They reviewed the situation and admitted him into the class. Almost all of the folks saying things here have zero knowledge of what happened. The woman was cursing their deceased family member, came into the yard and the rest is a matter of fact seen on a video. I would hate to be a female relative of most folks here, because there is no way they could depend on your help in an assault. I'm 53 and would beat the living hell out of a women who was attacking my sister. Dont trespass, don't curse my deceased relative, dont commit assault on my sister and nothing like that ever happens. I just hope the Falcons dont draft him and allow him to whip our ass for 13 years. 

[cookinbrak]

Seems to be taking place in the middle of the street. The woman in blue looks to be heading back to her car, the woman in white says something, and they start fighting. Then, 2 people try to push her off of the other woman. When that doesn't work, he attacks her. Then some fat bitch in red assaults her.

1 hour ago, bobcat91 said:

I would hate to be a female relative of most folks here, because there is no way they could depend on your help in an assault. I'm 53 and would beat the living hell out of a women who was attacking my sister.

Is your sister in the habit of starting fights in the middle of the street? You don't think you're man enough to step in between 2 women fighting? You would have to assault a woman?

[bobcat91]

1 minute ago, cookinbrak said:

Seems to be taking place in the middle of the street. The woman in blue looks to be heading back to her car, the woman in white says something, and they start fighting. Then, 2 people try to push her off of the other woman. When that doesn't work, he attacks her. Then some fat bitch in red assaults her.

Is your sister in the habit of starting fights in the middle of the street? You don't think you're man enough to step in between 2 women fighting? You would have to assault a woman?

Again, I live in Mississippi and know the facts. You dont. I've followed it for years, you haven't,  All you see is the clip, nothing else. I'm done. He will go high in the NFL draft and no one will have any issues taking him. Too many folks know it all after seeing a clip. He will be a 13 year high production guy like Fletcher Cox and Chris Jones. No one is down on Cam after he stole a laptop, was shown the door at Florida and auctioned off to Auburn by his dad. If he is there at 16, he should be a Panther. 

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

4 hours ago, bobcat91 said:

Again, I live in Mississippi and know the facts. You dont. I've followed it for years, you haven't,  All you see is the clip, nothing else. I'm done. He will go high in the NFL draft and no one will have any issues taking him. Too many folks know it all after seeing a clip. He will be a 13 year high production guy like Fletcher Cox and Chris Jones. No one is down on Cam after he stole a laptop, was shown the door at Florida and auctioned off to Auburn by his dad. If he is there at 16, he should be a Panther. 

He didn't know the laptop was stolen so why would anyone be down on Cam. This is another false assumption about the laptop he had.

[Shocker]

Future Cowboy

[trueblade]

I was high on him, but I hadn't heard about the incident. I think I'd still take a chance on him if he interviewed well.

[JARROD]

I want Greg Little, Jonah or Jawann— which ever is the best there at our pick for Left Tackle.

that would be the best player available that we need. 

A great corner would be awesome too. We got burned deep way too many times— take Away the other teams deep ball and we did a great job stopping the run mostly— 

so OT, CB—- then with the second pick CB, Safety or DLine. 

Thats what I believe

[Ace_Aladdin]

On 1/5/2019 at 5:28 PM, bobcat91 said:

Again, I live in Mississippi and know the facts. You dont. I've followed it for years, you haven't,  All you see is the clip, nothing else. I'm done. He will go high in the NFL draft and no one will have any issues taking him. Too many folks know it all after seeing a clip. He will be a 13 year high production guy like Fletcher Cox and Chris Jones. No one is down on Cam after he stole a laptop, was shown the door at Florida and auctioned off to Auburn by his dad. If he is there at 16, he should be a Panther. 

 

This guy is a walking future All-Pro that will shore up run defense and pass rushing.

 

 

 

Jeffrey Simmons AP NFL All-Pro Team

[JARROD]

5 minutes ago, Ace_Aladdin said:

Most people who have issue with his past will put up with 99% of Dotard oranges agenda. Nothing but 2 face people. 

This guy is a walking future All-Pro that will shore up run defense and pass rushing.

 

 

 

Jeffrey Simmons AP NFL All-Pro Team

A Left Tackle would have much more of a meaningful impact.

1st round defensive ends and tackles have the highest bust rates too. You can make a laundry list if Derrick Harvey’s and such—

good Left Tackles can bust too— Kalil, Flowers,.. but quite many more end up being worth it than Defensive ends. 

Remember Suh? “Generational talent, best DT prospect in 25 years” 

He busted in Detroit and in Miami— is resurrecting somewhat now but he’s never been worth the hype.

[Ricky Spanish]

Not sure how many people actually watched the videos. I wanted to before I just took someone at their word that he beat a woman with no context.

Looks like he tried to break it up initially and then got carried away. If the context is as @bobcat91 said, then I'd be willing to give it a pass honestly. He didn't abuse someone close to him, he didn't beat up a woman unprovoked, he was trying to help a family member and got carried away.

Dude was in high school. I'd be willing to give it a pass. It's not nearly as bad as Hardy's or Rice's incident. 

I would not be against drafting him if he is BPA and is actually good. 

[heel31ok]

On 1/5/2019 at 5:28 PM, bobcat91 said:

Again, I live in Mississippi and know the facts. You dont. I've followed it for years, you haven't,  All you see is the clip, nothing else. I'm done. He will go high in the NFL draft and no one will have any issues taking him. Too many folks know it all after seeing a clip. He will be a 13 year high production guy like Fletcher Cox and Chris Jones. No one is down on Cam after he stole a laptop, was shown the door at Florida and auctioned off to Auburn by his dad. If he is there at 16, he should be a Panther. 

not at 16 ...sorry