Riot Report: The Case For Matt Kalil - Why Bringing Him Back Is A Good Idea

[Peon Awesome]

Looking at the math on overthecap, I don't think it makes any sense to keep him. A post-june 1st cut saves us 7.25 million this year with a 9.8 million dead cap next year. If we cut him next year, we still have a 9.8 million dead cap. So the question is do you think you can replace his potential production for 7.25 million? Seeing as how we brought in Chris Clark on a minimum salary and didn't really notice a difference, I think that's a safe bet. 

[Eazy-E]

Williams looked pretty damn good against Demarcus Lawrence with a bum knee before Lawrence took out what was left of his knee. 

For the little sample size it was, the Moton Williams combo was the best I had seen the Panthers line in a long time and it was against a very good Dallas defensive line.

There is a better chance of Williams staying healthy than Kalil so that should make the decision pretty easy in my mind.

[KillerKat]

lol @ this 

[Black&BlueBubba]

8 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

lol @ this 

Well played my friend!!!! Well played. 

[Saca312]

10 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

lol @ this 

not my article lol

[RoaringRiot]

13 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

lol @ this 

You do realize one of the first things he says is that he thinks they’re going to let go of Kalil. Literally something NONE of the other outlets said. 

[RoaringRiot]

5 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

not my article lol

You make this thread supporting the logic behind his opinion and then reply with this? Pretty cowardly 

[Saca312]

15 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

You make this thread supporting the logic behind his opinion and then reply with this? Pretty cowardly 

im mostly trolling those guys since they trolled right at me.

my opinion hasn't changed no matter if he's released or not, fwiw.

love vincent's work and he's still 100% right on  daryl williams, matt kalil, and optimizing our oline situation.

[Malt Liquor]

The only reason I would keep Matt Kalil around is to make a run to Bojangles, to get grub for the team. 

[KaseKlosed]

On 2/28/2019 at 4:54 PM, Saca312 said:

Well it looks like Rivera's considering keeping Matt Kalil around based on his comments. For a lot of you, that sounds like the equivalent of the Panthers signing off Cam's life insurance, given how poor his performance can be on the field. 

However, in the grand scheme of things, is it really that bad of an idea? 

Vincent from the Riot Report offers his case for Matt Kalil:

https://theriotreport.com/the-case-for-matt-kalil/

Here's a quote I really love from this piece:

This is absolutely true and something not many fans think of. You have to realize Daryl Williams is coming off a major knee injury that kept him on IR all season and furthermore. Will he be effective coming back manning the right side? Was he even that good in the first place? I have my doubts on that, and so does Vincent:

For context, here's CanadianPanther of the CatScratchReader with some statistical evidence backing up Vincent's claims:

And more backup:

From what it appears, Norv's scheme depends on quality tackle play without having to give much help. And unfortunately, Daryl Williams required a lot of it for his All-Pro season. Adding on, he certainly did have hiccups despite such. 

Now, coming back to Matt Kalil. I personally believe he's largely serviceable in his role and agree with Vincent's points in the article. His downside is when he makes his errors, they're completely mind-blowing dumb errors, which is what fans will remember and point to. However, even then, he's had plenty of high points, to where he's held some respectable pass rushers well. 

Here's Vincent's take:

Pretty much sums it up. He's not as bad as his reputation gives and likely would be the best possibility with the current Panther's roster.

Finally, this quote sums this situation up:

Are we sure that Taylor Moton can be an effective LT as much as RT given how he's been a RT since college? Are we sure that Daryl Williams can come back from a major knee injury and play at an All-Pro level with less help from TEs in Norv's system? Or will continuity on the right side (keeping it a strength with Moton and Turner) and upgrading from Clark to Matt Kalil/a draft pick be the better option?

After all, look at the valuation of Matt Kalil's contracts compared to other LTs based on AV:

Daryl Williams will cost a premium. But is he that worth it?

If the Panthers want to protect Cam Newton, it may indeed be wise to keep the good going on the right side and give Matt Kalil another shot, as weird as this sounds. Vincent makes a very good case and expounds on points I've hounded on the past year, and I believe this would be the most ideal scenario. From saving money to logic, I think this is a reasonable take overall.

 

Ah ha 

[LinvilleGorge]

If you didn't read this take on the Kalil situation, let me save you some time

 

[JawnyBlaze]

Lost me as soon as it mentioned Shula scheming something to help the offense

[RoaringRiot]

7 hours ago, stbugs said:

 

I wasn’t a fan of the article because of he inaccuracies but throw in the devil’s advocate approach of having to defend Matt regardless of truth and it’s hard to swallow.

Lol....the inaccuracies were in the way he worded it, not with the point which was how the dead cap would relate to the Panthers’ ability to sign other players whether they kept or released him and the difference in the two players. Yeah he shouldn’t have said it like the Panthers were going to have to pay him another $14.7M when he meant that they would have to account for that dead cap figure, but you are the only one who was affixiated on when the money would literally hit Matt Kalil’s account, and that wasn’t the intention. Definitely his mistake - 100%. But the guy has a different opinion and explained it and backed it up with evidence - it’s not like he fired off some hot take. It’s totally fine you don’t agree. He also says in the opening paragraph that he knows many/most will disagree because of their hate for Kalil. But it’s also not like he’s on an island with this take. You are absolutely wrong if you think Williams is some obvious upgrade for Kalil for virtually the same money, which is all he was saying. Neither is very good  So now there is a glaring weakness at RT instead of LT. Ok. 

But yeah we get it, no more money is being shipped over to Kalil’s bank account. He’s already spent it. You’re totally correct. 

[RoaringRiot]

1 hour ago, black-panthers said:

@RoaringRiot isnt really good at doing his job

Never change, Chuck. You’re the best