Gil Brandt calls Daniel Jones "the same guy" as...

[Palmetto]

Peyton Manning and Tom Brady what a draft

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/dwayne-haskins-drafts-tom-brady-trent-dilfer-makes-bold-comparison

 

[Shocker]

Jones is a lot better than people on this board realize.

Haskins is the best QB in this draft though.  Really like him and he will be a steal.

[micnificent28]

2 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

Common sense post of the day award goes to...

I guess no one else get your joke either..

[cookinbrak]

Make a lot of noise about wanting Jones and see if NY will give us a 3rd to jump us.

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I’m not saying his arm was Josh Allen but, Payton had a respectable armbut in the case of Daniel Jones people like to point out his arm as a weakness... not the same as with Manning.

This is an excerpt from the very article you're sourcing regarding Manning...

Quote

Manning appears more accurate, and his rainbow touch on end-zone timing passes is as good as any NFL quarterback's. Leaf has the better deep arm, and his overall touch is well above average. The ability to throw all the routes is a strength of both. One popular theory about the two is that Manning is better prepared now for the pros, but that Leaf will be the better player in five years because of his arm strength.

Obviously, that wasn't true. But yes, there were people who thought Ryan Leaf would be better than Manning, and arm strength was a big reason.

Joe Montana was another guy who got knocked for not having great arm strength (part of the reason why he dropped to the third round). So was Drew Brees, who was criticized for having a lack of accuracy when he had to throw deep. And let's not forget that guy in New England doesn't exactly throw fireballs either.

I've said many times that arm strength is absolutely the most overrated thing people look at in quarterbacks, and I'm definitely not the only one who says it. You can find quotes from coaches, GMs, draft analysts and quarterbacks themselves who all say the same thing.

Just to give you an example, here's a tweet from Bucky Brooks talking about a quote from A J McCarron.

[micnificent28]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is an excerpt from the very article you're sourcing...

Obviously, that wasn't true.

Joe Montana was another guy who got knocked for not having great arm strength (part of the reason why he dropped to the third round). So was Drew Brees, who was criticized for having a lack of accuracy when he had to throw deep. ANd let's not forget that guy in New England doesn't exactly throw fireballs either.

I've said many times that arm strength is absolutely the most overrated thing people look at in quarterbacks, and I'm definitely not the only one who says it. You can find quotes from coaches, GMs, draft analysts and quarterbacks themselves who all say the same thing.

Just to give you an example, here's a tweet from Bucky Brooks talking about a quote from A J McCarron.

 

 

I’m not sure you “have to have it”,but the NFL has changed since the old west coast days. The uptemp spread offenses that today’s nfl uses benefit Greatly from it. What would Patrick Mahomes season have looked like with say Daniel Jones arm.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, micnificent28 said:

I’m not sure you “have to have it”,but the NFL has changed since the old west coast days. The uptemp spread offenses that today’s nfl uses benefit Greatly from it. What would Patrick Mahomes season have looked like with say Daniel Jones arm.

Ahhh, no. Up tempo offenses benefit from accuracy.  You get the ball out quick and in the right spot to your receiver who then takes it for as much as he can get. Long ball offenses are the ones where you want a rocket arm.

Also, you might wanna take note of the quote from Phil Simms that's in the excerpt you posted above.

Quote

You make your living throwing the intermediate pass.

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, top dawg said:

Did we work him out?

Not that I saw.

I don't think we'd be tempted if he dropped to 16, but it's an interesting question.

[JARROD]

Honestly I’ve said some detracting things about Jones,.. but the more video I watch of him I believe he’s going to be good at some point. He’s got good size, good arm and his best trait seems to be throwing with anticipation already— many don’t show that. 

Mute point because we aren't drafting Lock or him(I say that,.. but then there was Clausen),..but if this was a quarterback heavy year where those guys were in the 2nd or 3rd I wouldn’t cry if we drafted one.

[Panthers8969]

Am I the only one that hates click bait titles? Why did this become a thing?

[Lumps]

Manning had intangibles. Work ethic. Accuracy as well. Those two things are what make the great QBs. Arm strength is borderline meaningless.

[Basbear]

Well, it took much longer than normal for Gil to finally look old. Same coaches don't mean the same player. To his credit, I did see one team rate Jones as the top QB, but I don't like this QB class at all. 

[GoPanthers123]

If there is one thing we know is good luck evaluating QBs correctly, it has always been hit or miss.

[Riverboat Ron]

But can he throw 70 yards from his knees?