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[R2-D2]

26 minutes ago, Mage said:

And how would weed cause pancreatitis lol?

It’s possible but incredibly rare. 99/100 someone presenting with acute pancreatitis is going to have polysubstance abuse, and 99/100 that person will also have weed so it’s difficult to differentiate. 

There is some available literature however. 

RESULTS: There were 26 cases of cannabis-induced AP (23/26 men; 24/26 under the age of 35 y). Acute pancreatitis correlated with increased cannabis use in 18 patients. Recurrent AP related temporally to cannabis use was reported in 15 of 26. There are 13 reports of no further AP episodes after cannabis cessation.

CONCLUSIONS: Cannabis is a possible risk factor for AP and recurrent AP, occurring primarily in young patients under the age of 35 years. Toxicology screens should be considered in all patients with idiopathic AP.

[JARROD]

31 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D. said:

This is relatively uninformed.  Hyperemesis is often associated with pregnancy, when women get uncontrollable morning sickness.  The same can happen in a miniscule number of chronic marijuana users.  Which is ironic because marijuana use is often used to curb nausea in chemotherapy patients.  It has nothing to do with the symptoms you listed. 

Marijuana being linked to acute pancreatitis is interesting. However extremely rare again. Only 13 incidences have ever been confirmed.  

Comparing chronic marijuana use to chronic alcohol use, give me the marijuana. Liver disease, pancreatitis, immune suppression, and a multitude of early onset dementias including Korsakoff's and Alzheimer's.

 

Moral of the story Huddlers, never be a chronic anything user. Everything in moderation.

Is uninformed from studies with medical doctors?

http://europepmc.org/articles/pmc2886568

my friend,.. a really good friend who was an outstanding Marine and mentor at one time has this bad— the colic, chronic pancreatitis and pretty much every symptom listed.

people defended smoking like this years ago. I get that people love it,.. just don’t let it blind you.

Also,.. defending and calling someone else “uninformed”(basically stupid or lying) when a medical doctor looked me right in the face and diagnosed my friend with it and said he had over 200 cases that year(6 months into the year) is just plain ridiculous. 

I don’t hate weed,.. I’m just saying modern weed ain’t your grandpa’s reefer and it’s not safe just because you love it.

theres also a lot of new love out there for it,.. as well as billions in tax dollars— so negative medical news in the US gets swept under the rug.

studies in places where they dont have a invested interest are much more honest.

[Carl Spackler]

I’ve wigged out from copious bong hits of some strong poo before but it wore off in like half an hour. Just freaked me out bc I got so high from strong poo

[45catfan]

7 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Were you there?  I don’t hate weed, know a lot of people that, smoke, eat, and vape it, and love it.

just saying I’ve seen others who had their lives destroyed.  The Cannabinoid Hyperemesis is a very real syndrome.

modern medical marijuana is over 200 times as strong as what people smoked at woodstock. It’s almost the difference in comparing cocaine to a coco leaf,.. weaponized.

And maybe read more than defend something just because you love it. Try reading ALL of the medical side instead of just what supports your confirmation bias.

”bullshit” is just another term for “I don’t know, don’t want to know”

It's funny how people that smoke weed get bent out of shape of the slightest critical remark.  I used to smoke it when I was much younger just for context.  It's like they are scared that now it's more main stream, that critical remarks is somehow going to make it less legal (where legal) or more criminalized than it already is.  Don't stigmatize my drug of choice just as it is becoming more accepted!  I could care less one way or the other, just merely pointing out how sensitive and defensive smokers get about their beloved pot.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D.]

45 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Is uninformed from studies with medical doctors?

http://europepmc.org/articles/pmc2886568

my friend,.. a really good friend who was an outstanding Marine and mentor at one time has this bad— the colic, chronic pancreatitis and pretty much every symptom listed.

people defended smoking like this years ago. I get that people love it,.. just don’t let it blind you.

Also,.. defending and calling someone else “uninformed”(basically stupid or lying) when a medical doctor looked me right in the face and diagnosed my friend with it and said he had over 200 cases that year(6 months into the year) is just plain ridiculous. 

I don’t hate weed,.. I’m just saying modern weed ain’t your grandpa’s reefer and it’s not safe just because you love it.

theres also a lot of new love out there for it,.. as well as billions in tax dollars— so negative medical news in the US gets swept under the rug.

studies in places where they dont have a invested interest are much more honest.

Did you even read the article you posted? "recurrent episodes of severe nausea and intractable vomiting, and abdominal pain" Just like I said. It has nothing to do with the variety of other symptoms you listed.   That is why I considered what you said uninformed.  You did not have a clear grasp on the symptoms associated with the disorder. 

You literally stated "another one has developed chronic pancreatitis and other issues, painful colic, night sweats etc,.. it’s a syndrome called Cannabinoid Hyperemesis syndrome."  

Which is how no one would describe CHS. Even if you stretched the term colic when used in association with adults (which is rarely the case) is used to describe urinary pain, which again, is not associated with CHS. 

 

[R2-D2]

49 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Also,.. defending and calling someone else “uninformed”(basically stupid or lying) when a medical doctor looked me right in the face and diagnosed my friend with it and said he had over 200 cases that year(6 months into the year) is just plain ridiculous. 

Pancreatitis is fairly common. 

The doctor did not look you in the face and said he had 200 confirmed cases of weed induced AP you either misunderstood, misheard, or are lying. 

[PootieNunu]

25 minutes ago, R2-D2 said:

Pancreatitis is fairly common. 

The doctor did not look you in the face and said he had 200 confirmed cases of weed induced AP you either misunderstood, misheard, or are lying. 

Must be the reefer madness.....lol

[firefox1234]

Lets put this way if weed, alcohol, any other drugs, or even other vices like video games and gambling prevent you from living a a free and fruitful life you and the people you care about then you got a problem. Nothing against weed(definitely not the synthetic stuff) i love it myself but if you can't stop it long enough to pass a piss test to play football is probably a warning sign...

[Jesse]

Allegedly had cocaine on him when he got pulled over. How do you use cocaine and still gain weight? Glad we didn't have the chance to pick this guy.

[mc52beast]

 

[45catfan]

He had all kinds of red flags coming out of college.  People say teams should take risks on those guys in college that have a few question marks.  Well the Cardinals did and they got burned.

[Davidson Deac II]

7 hours ago, Mage said:

You are right, everyone reacts differently.

However, the odds of him knowing multiple people who became almost "schizophrenic" because of it and/or almost got hospitalized for it is maybe .01%.  

And how would weed cause pancreatitis lol?

Its exceedlingly rare, but its possible.

http://pancreas.imedpub.com/acute-pancreatitis-secondary-to-marijuana-consumption.php?aid=9028

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Marijuana has been documented as a rare cause of acute pancreatitis.

13 documented cases, so far.  My mom had a pancreatitis attack, that was brought by cortisone.  Normally, its alcohol, but she never drank.  Because of that, I decided to do a lot of reading on the subject.  With people that are susceptible to it, there are a lot of things that can bring it on.

[CPcavedweller]

7 hours ago, Mage said:

You are right, everyone reacts differently.

However, the odds of him knowing multiple people who became almost "schizophrenic" because of it and/or almost got hospitalized for it is maybe .01%.  

And how would weed cause pancreatitis lol?

I knew two people who had psychotic breaks while high on marijuana with that being the only substance that they consumed. Nothing dangerous but they lost their grip on reality and had to be hospitalized. 

[JARROD]

8 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D. said:

Did you even read the article you posted? "recurrent episodes of severe nausea and intractable vomiting, and abdominal pain" Just like I said. It has nothing to do with the variety of other symptoms you listed.   That is why I considered what you said uninformed.  You did not have a clear grasp on the symptoms associated with the disorder. 

You literally stated "another one has developed chronic pancreatitis and other issues, painful colic, night sweats etc,.. it’s a syndrome called Cannabinoid Hyperemesis syndrome."  

Which is how no one would describe CHS. Even if you stretched the term colic when used in association with adults (which is rarely the case) is used to describe urinary pain, which again, is not associated with CHS. 

 

There are plenty of studies coming out to support it. More and more cases are coming out all the time. 

And it has been shown to cause pancreatitis,... just the truth. Maybe read more, use critical thinking instead of discounting.

and I am informed. I think you are not.

its pointless to speak with addicts with facts about something they defend with their lifeblood.