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Grier and Allen make this preseason so much more interesting.


Jeremy Igo

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Unfortunately in terms of preseason the reality is backups are backups for a reason. Certainly some are better than others but teams watching their 2nd and 3rd string quarterbacks struggle isn't exactly a new phenomenon. It's why even marginal QB's are getting paid the big bucks. Anderson wasn't brought here because he was a pro bowler, he was brought here because he was cheap.

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1 hour ago, mc52beast said:

How long will it take for Hurney to become either the greatest Panthers GM or the worst thing to ever happen to NC

H2O is absolutely the best Panthers GM and it took a second chance to solidify his legacy. If he can win a championship or two he could move into NFL history.

You hear that Hurndog? Keep it up!

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32 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

H2O is absolutely the best Panthers GM and it took a second chance to solidify his legacy. If he can win a championship or two he could move into NFL history.

You hear that Hurndog? Keep it up!

Hol up a minute. Hurney with a full offseason under his belt only has a 7-9 record to show for it. 

Let's wait to see how we do this season before we crown him. 

I say this believing 100% that he has improved the team immensely this offseason, but still, gotta wait to see what the product on the field is first. 

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