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Eric Reid gettin' tested...


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I thought it was proven he was NOT tested more than normal last season. He was pressed by the press and said something like" O maybe it wasnt 9 times like I said, maybe closer to 5....."

FYI to all NFLers posting on social media, I you are benching a elephant, dont be shocked when the piss man comes. 

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58 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

He is allowed to have his own tester along with the official guy.  If Reid is concerned about it, he should ensure that each time he gets tested, one sample goes to the league, and one to a private facility.  

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2 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

He is allowed to have his own tester along with the official guy.  If Reid is concerned about it, he should ensure that each time he gets tested, one sample goes to the league, and one to a private facility.  

That's not how it works nor are any samples going to any private facilities chosen by a player.  There's a detailed protocol on how sample is taken (divided into A & B samples) at the time both player & the third-party technician sign-off saying proper protocol was followed.

If sample-A turns up positive the player is then allowed to send his own representative/toxicologist to be present and monitor the test on sample-B.  A couple players have actually had initial positive tests overturned but it is rare.

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6 hours ago, RenoCarolina said:

If this gets Reid fired up than more power to him.  It fires me up as well.

But the same accusations made last year lead to an investigation by both the League AND the Union that said Reid was not being accurate about the # of times he was being tested.  So there is that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/01/09/nfl-nflpa-say-eric-reid-was-not-targeted-drug-tests/?noredirect=on

 

True, i mean hey its not like the NFL has NEVER lied about anything to cover their own asses. 

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8 hours ago, SBiii said:

That's not how it works nor are any samples going to any private facilities chosen by a player.  There's a detailed protocol on how sample is taken (divided into A & B samples) at the time both player & the third-party technician sign-off saying proper protocol was followed.

If sample-A turns up positive the player is then allowed to send his own representative/toxicologist to be present and monitor the test on sample-B.  A couple players have actually had initial positive tests overturned but it is rare.

I said he could have his own toxicoloist.  Perhaps I should have said observer.   But I didn't say that the NFL policy allows for a private facility, I said that Reid should do that if concerned about the NFL faking results.  There is nothing the NFL can do to stop a player from taking his own sample at the same time as the NFL sample and having a private lab do the testing.  It may not help him irt the NFL board, but as long as the test is observed and properly documented, it will help with a lawsuit, or with the press.  

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14 hours ago, Xtreme said:

How long before the NFL puts something in his urine to get him out of the league? Wouldn't surprised me. The NFL is dirty. 

They don't even have to actually spike it. If they really want to send a message to him, a false positive is more than enough to get the job done.

Here's how I see it playing out if the league were dirty: He gets a positive test result the week before a big game, and he is forced to sit. He spends weeks trying to appeal as the league slow-rolls re-running the sample. By the time, they re-run the test, and the league issues a mea culpa, "Oh, there was a mix-up at the lab. Reid's test is clean and he's clear to play," Reid has already missed 3-4 weeks.

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2 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Drug policy of the NFL. Ya don't have to play the game if you ain't happy with the requirements of the game. 

It's cute that people actually are stupid enough to disagree with company policy if you chose to work there. 

God bless stupidity. 

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I was just about to post that if someone had solid numbers we could figure out the probability of being tested so much. Wiki already did it.

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By the Panthers' Week 15 loss to the New Orleans Saints, Reid had been drug tested 7 times during the 2018 season, even though he had only played in 11 games; accounting for a mandatory test, the probability of such an instance happening randomly is approximately 0.17%.[40] Reid sees this as evidence of being targeted by the league and plans on including these seven drug tests as part of his case file in the proceedings of his collusion grievance against the league.[41]

That means 1 out of 588 players should be tested that much each year and there are almost 1700 players in the nfl...

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6 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I said he could have his own toxicoloist.  Perhaps I should have said observer.   But I didn't say that the NFL policy allows for a private facility, I said that Reid should do that if concerned about the NFL faking results.  There is nothing the NFL can do to stop a player from taking his own sample at the same time as the NFL sample and having a private lab do the testing.  It may not help him irt the NFL board, but as long as the test is observed and properly documented, it will help with a lawsuit, or with the press.  

Fantasy scenario.

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