Here is a full list of QBs to go 3-0 and throw zero picks in their first 3 road starts

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, trueblade said:

Even the great TB12 had a 4 pic game in his first couple of starts (his 3rd start to be precise). It happens.

Don't make thebigcat angry with that poo.

[TheRed]

The issue with scoffing aside the fumbles as inconsequential is they occured through failures behind our offensive line.

The competition as the season progresses isn't exactly going to get easier. Turnovers can be corrected, but we have to put Allen in a position where he is less likely for bad things like that to happen. First step in that would be establishing a versatile run game. Allen shouldn't be trying to run for first downs with 4 running backs at our disposal.

[Wolfpack352]

11 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Even the great TB12 had a 4 pic game in his first couple of starts (his 3rd start to be precise). It happens.

True, i believe he even threw an interception in his last game against the Bills in the redzone.  So yes, bound to happen.  But it is how he answers the call next go around.  

[mc52beast]

He better learn how to hold on to a ball, eventually the fumbles will turn into scores

[Davidson Deac II]

37 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not all of his fumbles have been strip sacks, just most of them.

With that said, the fact that he still has yet to throw an interception really does boggle the mind.

 

There were a couple that could have been picked, but the Texans just missed.  But he has definitely kept the number of bad throws to a minumum.

I took the liberty of looking up Brady's record since so many are throwing out the second greatest of all time's name.  In his third start of 2001, he had two strip sack fumbles.  In his fourth start of 2001, he had two more strip sack fumbles.  Out of those four, he lost two of them.  For that season, he had 12.  Not a great number, but something he was able to correct.  Of course, in reality comparing Allen to Brady is ludicrous, but at least it does give us hope that he can resolve the fumble issues.  And if he can't, well Cam will be back at some point.  

[GoPanthers123]

He has among the best starts for a QB, ever. And we were coming off a long losing steak, so it’s not like the team could win with just anyone.

[Snake]

42 minutes ago, TheRed said:

The issue with scoffing aside the fumbles as inconsequential is they occured through failures behind our offensive line.

The competition as the season progresses isn't exactly going to get easier. Turnovers can be corrected, but we have to put Allen in a position where he is less likely for bad things like that to happen. First step in that would be establishing a versatile run game. Allen shouldn't be trying to run for first downs with 4 running backs at our disposal.

Exactly, but I think the problem with that is our oline can't do anything right this year. We need to follow Dallas and Indy's approach and building a top 10 line. Both Newton nor Allen can run good enough to hide a terrible line. 

[KB_fan]

6 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Yeah it will happen soon enough.  But it's a rarity that a rookie QB hasn't thrown a pick in his first few games.  I hope we don't jinx the kid now and he goes out and throws 3 picks in his next game.

Indeed. I was surprised at how rare it is for QBs to avoid an INT in their 1st 3 starts.

Since 1950, only 13 of 176 QBs (7%) have done it, including Brady, Rodgers.  Only Wentz and Allen have done it while also going 3-0.  Only Kyle did it in 3 away games.

(Since 1950, only 9 QBs have ever had their 1st 3 starts on the road, so that's a small sample)

http://pfref.com/tiny/OfwKY

 

[Hoenheim]

He's basically a rookie behind a Oline that's still trying to gell.

The good thing is that he seems to be extremely aware of the fumbles. In his post game he was quoted as saying the fumbles were "completely unacceptable" and put the team in a bad position. I think he's going to work on it and improve. 

[KB_fan]

6 hours ago, trueblade said:

Even the great TB12 had a 4 pic game in his first couple of starts (his 3rd start to be precise). It happens.

PFR shows Brady as having 0 INTs in his 1st 3 starts.

http://pfref.com/tiny/s2wEF

Maybe he threw those INTs in an early game he didn't start?

[mav1234]

7 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

PFR shows Brady as having 0 INTs in his 1st 3 starts.

http://pfref.com/tiny/s2wEF

Maybe he threw those INTs in an early game he didn't start?

He had a multi int game early in his starting career.

Edit: 5 games in, looks like.  And it was 4 ints...

[PanthersNC1984]

We are 2-0 when Allen loses a fumble on the opening drive. Kyle if you’re reading this, keep losing fumbles during opening drives!

[KB_fan]

I was tweeting about something earlier today that I think is a pretty huge factor in Kyle Allen's success.

In all 3 of his starts, Panthers had a lead at halftime.

Since 2016, Panthers are 2-16 when trailing at halftime.

24-6 when leading at halftime.

If we can avoid turnovers and get some early points in games it will continue to bode well.

[1of10Charnatives]

35 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

I was tweeting about something earlier today that I think is a pretty huge factor in Kyle Allen's success.

In all 3 of his starts, Panthers had a lead at halftime.

Since 2016, Panthers are 2-16 when trailing at halftime.

24-6 when leading at halftime.

If we can avoid turnovers and get some early points in games it will continue to bode well.

by any chance do you know what the average win rate is in the NFL for teams leading at the half? That would give us a useful measuring stick to see how typical or atypical the Panthers are in this regard, since I'm sure most teams do better when leading at the half. Either way thanks for pointing it out, interesting observation.