Is it playoffs or bust for Ron and co?

[t96]

9 hours ago, Daeavorn said:

Due to his own biases he will always be a coach that requires injuries to give younger guys chances at starting.

Is that who we want driving our team for another 5 years? Because I'm getting to the point where I don't.

Ron may have a 'defensive pedigree' but we've never had a #1 defense while he's been here and right now while our defensive line is getting to the QB the opposing teams are still getting a lot of third down completions. 

Im not convinced he can ever win a Super Bowl. 2015 was his chance with us and he blew it. 

 

2013 our defense was the best in the league, better than Seattle’s. Don’t care what the stats say. Passed the eye test. This year looking like arguably top 3 as well. Never below top 10 since he’s been here.

[t96]

10 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

This same old crap again? Ron is coaching lights out and has the whole team playing together and playing to win. He's strung together four good wins while we have tons of starters (and some backups) going onto the injury report or IR. And, because someone will take a swing at him too, Marty Hurney has got us some great personnel that have brought this together.

Go peddle your tired narrative somewhere else. We're winning.

I generally agree, but if we were to have another long losing streak in the second half of the season like last year, that just isn’t acceptable. I don’t expect that to happen and think we’ll make the playoffs but if it did happen Ron would have to go.

[lovelett]

11 hours ago, Bartin said:

If he gets to 11-5 and misses the playoffs then I’ll give him a pass. 10-6 or 9-7 with no playoffs ain’t cutting it for me.

Not a chance... fire the guy that has your defense going and your offense competing with your backup QB....you live in Lala land... 10-6 is a good year, how the seeding works out is not relevant to that. 8-8 winning the division or out of the race we can have that discussion.

[lovelett]

6 hours ago, MVPccaffrey said:

Some of the posters here are so delusional I can't believe we follow the same team/sport.

Coach Rivera is a top 10 coach who wins games at a ridiculous rate when he's getting merely average play from the QB spot.  He puts out good to great defenses season after season and all the players would run through a wall for him.  That seat is safe, and rationally so.

IMO Cam will be gone from here long before Coach Rivera ever is.

100 percent you are right. Fan bases that “lucked into a young offensive mind” are calling for there heads already... yaaaa

[Khyber53]

Patience guys, patience. Pro football has had coaching eras since the beginning. Right now we are in the Belichick era, before it came ones like the Knolls era, the Lombardi era, the Brown era, etc...

In each of those, there was one standout coach who changed the game and dominated the league for a decade or more, winning far more than their fair share of championships. They didn't win them all, though, and coaches like Landry, Madden, Halas, Ditka and others are remembered because they were able to catch lightning in a bottle a time or two and win the big game. Those guys are legends now but they didn't win big every season, but had to suffer the rise and fall of teams and rosters, suffer through injury bugs, rules changes and all sorts of stuff. 

Ron might well be one of those guys, time will tell, but he is certainly a coach that gives his team a shot and that's not something that is easily replaced in the NFL. Owners in the NFL want winners and trophies, but more than anything they want a team that can contend, that puts butts into seats and sells tons of merchandise. What they don't want, though, is anything that hurts that bottom line. Look at organizations like the Bengals, Chargers, Jaguars, Bills, Buccaneers, Dolphins and Raiders. These moribund teams have been bottom feeders forever and really struggle to field any team that draws fans from outside of their geographical areas. The Dolphins and Raiders have been drawing sustenance from their past teams for so long that one has had to move to generate new revenue streams and the other one has had a revolving door of ownership partners that has heavily courted celebrities and entertainers just to entice ticket sales. All of these teams have had astoundingly fast moving coaching carousels over the years or have ownerships that are really scaled down to living off of the minimum income of the revenue share (which, granted is pretty hefty).

Let's not be those teams and let's not be so fast to show Ron and Co. the door. He's a good coach, he gives us a chance and he's working lights out this year in what could be a very special, if unorthodox, season.

[1of10Charnatives]

Just to add to what you’re saying, the flip side of the coaching carousel is New England, which has won all its championships under a single coach, and the franchise tied with it for most Sb wins, which has had 3 coaches since Chuck Knoll first took the job in 43 BC.

[Khyber53]

19 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Just to add to what you’re saying, the flip side of the coaching carousel is New England, which has won all its championships under a single coach, and the franchise tied with it for most Sb wins, which has had 3 coaches since Chuck Knoll first took the job in 43 BC.

Yep, as addressed in the lede. This is the Belichick era of football. And in Pittsburgh, with the Knoll era, they followed up with Cowher and Tomlin, both of who have carried the torch well (and trophies of their own) and both who have had down seasons and extended stays. Good organizations stick with good coaches. Great organizations do, too, and sometimes they luck into one of those generational greats.

We're in the good organization, good coach club... and there aren't too many members of that club.

[Harbingers]

19 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

NFC is looking really strong. If Ron finishes with a winning record but no playoffs is it over?

 

19 hours ago, joeyxfresco said:

I’d say anything less than an NFC Conference Game appearance would be the end of Ron honestly 

Of course nobody is in Teppers head. If we poo the bed down the stretch perhaps. Playoffs or better is a convincing stay. But Tepper may play the card either way. That said,

If I was a betting man, I’d say Tepper keeps him at least through the end of his extension next year. Especially with this Cam Wild Card right now and obviously the looming one. If he was going to get rid of Ron on performance he would have done it last year. I see a high chance of them letting Ron “Retire” at the end of his contract unless we get a superb owl or two. 

[AceBoogie]

17 hours ago, hepcat said:

I mean...Ron only coaches well when it seems like he's close to getting fired. Then the team wins for awhile, Ron gets comfortable, and the team takes a hot wet dump for awhile. Then as soon as he gets close to getting fired again, the team starts winning again. It's the same cycle with him. Maybe the good cycle lasts long enough to win a Superbowl this time. 

I will say with how many piss poorly coached teams I see play every Sunday, Ron does have the team ready to play and disciplined more than most other teams.

This is also true. 

[Jus Rob]

17 hours ago, hepcat said:

Already lost at home to the Bucs too. Not good.

Bro do you even watch games? Cam clearly lost us that game smh

[hepcat]

14 minutes ago, Jus Rob said:

Bro do you even watch games? Cam clearly lost us that game smh

Yea I did. Defense gave up a huge game to Chris Godwin

[Peon Awesome]

1 hour ago, hepcat said:

Yea I did. Defense gave up a huge game to Chris Godwin

Interesting take.. so we lost because the defense gave up 20 total points and 121 yards to Godwin, instead of the 27 points and 151 yards they gave up last week in a double-digit win?

I'm not going to pretend that the defense wasn't overall more prolific last week but you've gotta have your blinders on if you don't think Cam's issues cost us that game. I'm a huge fan of a healthy Cam but that's not what we had in the 2nd half and that's what ultimately cost us. You can't blame a defense that held a team to 20 points and under 300 yards of total offense. That's a win 9 times out of 10, and heck still should have been despite our anemic 2nd half offense if we could convert 1 frickin yard.

[Jon Snow]

If you believe the rumors it is.  I would say it's 50/50 right now.   There's a lot of football left to play and there's this whole QB thing looming on the horizon.  He has to win the nfcs at least to quiet the rumors.