Connecting the Dots on our Trade Target

[LinvilleGorge]

15 minutes ago, CRA said:

I don’t really agree with it.  

I mean is a first round pick for a legit and proven stud at a position of need not....not a better option than gambling for a player that may or may not be a stud? 

I don’t like trading draft picks for draft picks though 

Williams hasn't played 16 games since 2013. He's missed multiple games in every season since 2015. He's missed 13 games in the past three seasons, not even counting his holdout games this year. Now he's on the wrong side of 30 and hasn't played a game this season.

Sorry, I'm saying hard pass on Trent Williams if the price is a 1st or 2nd. We have an entire DL to rebuild.

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Williams hasn't played 16 games since 2013. He's missed multiple games in every season since 2015. He's missed 13 games in the past three seasons, not even counting his holdout games this year. Now he's on the wrong side of 30 and hasn't played a game this season.

Sorry, I'm saying hard pass on Trent Williams if the price is a 1st or 2nd. We have an entire DL to rebuild.

I wasn’t advocating for Trent just speaking on usage of a draft pick as something I am okay with 

I don’t want Trent.  Not just the age and health but he also seems problematic in general.  

 

[RumHam]

1 hour ago, Hoenheim said:

as long as we dont trade a 1st. Nothing is worth trading a 1st for. fug that. Unless you want to tank your franchise for several years..

Their jobs are on the line what do they care

[Carolina Mike]

I actually hope no trade happens that takes away our 1st and/or 2nd draft picks. I’d rather we save those for an entire new HC, Coaching Staff & GM.

 

[TheSpecialJuan]

8 minutes ago, Carolina Mike said:

I actually hope no trade happens that takes away our 1st and/or 2nd draft picks. I’d rather we save those for an entire new HC, Coaching Staff & GM.

 

agree

[panther252]

1 hour ago, Carolina Mike said:

I actually hope no trade happens that takes away our 1st and/or 2nd draft picks. I’d rather we save those for an entire new HC, Coaching Staff & GM.

 

I agree, but the problem is this staff would want to win now to save their jobs if they feel any sort of heat. They're not going to want to try and make sure their replacements are set to succeed. They'd only hoard picks if they feel they had some sort of job security. 

[MHS831]

Not sure about Williams.  Too expensive. I do not want to give up a first or second rounder for a 31-year old player. 

The trade we COULD be interested in making?

Buc's TE OJ Howard.  Olsen is not worth his deal, and OJ is stuck in a bad system.  I think we could give a fourth rounder and Daryl Williams for him.

 

 

[4Corners]

[Sam Mills Fan]

Color me skeptical that this happens. We haven't traded for a big-time player since Olsen in 2011. In fact, here's a full list of every player we've traded for since 2011:

Marshall Newhouse

Corey Robinson

Torrey Smith

Kevon Seymour

Andy Lee

Jared Allen

Kevin Norwood

Colin Jones

Louis Murphy

Bruce Campbell

Greg Olsen

The only guy that was good and still in his prime on that list is Olsen. Allen was good for us, but he was in his last season. Colin Jones has been solid, but he's still Colin Jones. Nobody else amounted to anything.

[Sam Mills Fan]

34 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Not sure about Williams.  Too expensive. I do not want to give up a first or second rounder for a 31-year old player. 

The trade we COULD be interested in making?

Buc's TE OJ Howard.  Olsen is not worth his deal, and OJ is stuck in a bad system.  I think we could give a fourth rounder and Daryl Williams for him.

 

 

NFL teams don't trade recent first-rounders in-division no matter what.

[Matt62881]

14 hours ago, Catufb85 said:

At this point, following what the Patriots, 9ers, Texans, etc are doing to better their roster right now to compete right now, we should make a move.  I don’t think it’ll happen but Ron never makes moves like this.  Trent Williams or a #1 WR or some secondary help would be ideal! Not holding my breathe.  That whole “don’t sacrifice your future with trading picks” should be out the window as Greg, Cam, Addison, and other vets are over the hill with health and age and we should be in a win now mode. CMC has been carrying this team along with the defense so far this season (aside from yesterday’s game) and they need help. My concern with CMC accounting for 56% of the offense has been in fear for his long term durability as Norv and Aron are running this man to death. 

Lt and or space eating dt

[mc52beast]

Rumor is that the Browns have offered a 2nd for TW. Unless this staff is truly in “win now” mode I don’t see anything happening. 
 

Personally I don’t want him, especially not for a 2nd. He seems to be a trouble maker.

[Eazy-E]

15 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

as long as we dont trade a 1st. Nothing is worth trading a 1st for. fug that. Unless you want to tank your franchise for several years..

A first round pick is 100% worth trying to make sure our QB doesn't die on the field. The offensive line gave up 7 sacks on Sunday ffs. The Panthers haven't been able to find an answer at left tackle since Jordan Gross retired. 

 

[TheRed]

Giving up a 2nd rounder for a left tackle who will be 32 next year (Jordan Gross retired at 34) with all the possible extensions we have coming up doesn't sound like too hot of an idea.