Will Cam ever be mentioned in the same breath as...:

[CanadianCat]

2015 Cam was nearly unstoppable.

RGIII as a rookie was (as someone previously mentioned) was also Vick 2.0

When Miami ran the wildcat a few years back no one had any clue how to stop them.

 

So enjoy the ride while you can Baltimore. 

[CanadianCat]

Durability is the only equalizer. Cam when healthy is a HUGE advantage for us. But his body has broken down over the years. 

Jackson is playing healthy and looks amazing. But he plays (IMO) more recklessly than Cam did. At least Cam has the size to take the shots. Jackson looks like one hit stick away from RGIII. 

[onmyown]

On 11/14/2019 at 11:50 PM, RickyManningJr said:

Russ, Mahomes, Watson, Jackson or even Dak ever again?

Rus is on a different tier as of now than those guys. Better than all of them. As of now.

Mahomes I think will eventually be the best of them all and is better than Cam. 

Jackson is still a big questions mark as a running QB. Can he sustain the success? 
 

Dak and Watson I think are really the only QBs that can be discussed with Cam.

[MHS831]

7 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd actually rate Newton above McNabb.

WCO QBs are just about always overrated, especially the one in Andy Reid's system.

Good point.  Never really thought about Reid--nail on the head.

[JB82887]

29 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Good point.  Never really thought about Reid--nail on the head.

Mahomes is in an Andy Reid system as well

[stirs]

I guess this thread is just about QB's of color, so on that note, Russ is better than any on the list, mainly because of consistency and lack of injuries.  He is pocket and running QB.  Very hard to defend, very hard to see with his small stature.  The rest are young and if they can avoid injuries, all will be great.  Cam's career has been a bit of a roller coaster.  Very dynamic for some periods and then a couple down years, but back up, then down again.  This is the only thing that will hamper his place.  The down years have a lot to do with the continued sorry Olines and injuries

[TheRed]

6 hours ago, raz said:

lamar is much much better at being 'real' and 'likable' in front of the camera than cam was. he's not mercurial like cam was.  he's a better runner.   he's the top rated passer from the pocket in the league.   he's top 5 in passing vs every type of coverage and pressure.    he's having a better year than cam did in '15 so far.  we'll see how it plays out.    he looks to be a better version of what cam was so far.  

Geesh. Careful not to choke on that heap of salt over there.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

10 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

There's talk of course that someone will find a way to stop him and then things may change. I suppose that's possible, but not guaranteed.

Lotsa folks though Vick was unstoppable but between us and Monte Kiffin in Tampa we figured it out. For us, the addition of Thomas Davis was a big part of it.

Agreed, at this point anyone playing the Ravens needs to have a spy on Jackson to lock him down.

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Agreed, at this point anyone playing the Ravens needs to have a spy on Jackson to lock him down.

The downside of that as you do have to find somebody who's actually capable of doing that. Not necessarily the easiest task.

In our case, we did it by converting an athletic safety to linebacker. I'm not that big a fan of NFL position switches, but that one worked.

 

[XOBlackxJokerOX]

On ‎11‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 6:47 AM, CaptainJFlint said:

Strange Question!...
If Cam never plays again he may struggle to get into the HoF.
If Cam plays another 5 succesful seasons he will be a HoFer.
But who will talk about Mahomes, Watson, Jackson or Prescott if they get hurt this season and never play again? Maybe nobody!
Only Russell Wilson could stop playing now and will be remembered forever. Maybe Cam too!

Cam may not be first ballot but he's done enough to make it. His plethora of NFL records can attest to that being one of the most prolific rushing QBs in the history of the game although players like Watson and Jackson may challenge that. Jackson may actually take most of his records the way he's going but we'll see.

[raz]

2 hours ago, TheRed said:

Geesh. Careful not to choke on that heap of salt over there.

no salt.  lamar's 2nd year.   the kid is amazing on a football field.   he also has a better coach, a better oc, and the highest rated left tackle in the league.   that part i'm salty about.  

[PootieNunu]

At this point he cant even get mentioned with QB's like Phillip Rivers because of league wide bias and hate towards the way he played/plays the position, even though he has more on his resume than guys like that.

[PootieNunu]

1 hour ago, XOBlackxJokerOX said:

Cam may not be first ballot but he's done enough to make it. His plethora of NFL records can attest to that being one of the most prolific rushing QBs in the history of the game although players like Watson and Jackson may challenge that. Jackson may actually take most of his records the way he's going but we'll see.

I doubt Jackson breaks his rushing TD mark. He is not built like Cam to be a battering ram in the red zone.

[MVPccaffrey]

Lamar is a hell of a player.  Probably MVP his 2nd year, wow.  He's got the mobile game of Cam but a sense when to avoid the hit, in addition to eye popping completion percentages well above the 55 to 60% we're used to.  Not a goal line back but his accuracy more than makes up for it.  A lot of embarassed GMs out there right now.