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Rivera Best Panthers Coach All Time?

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Doc Holiday said:

Rivera has been hands off on the offense, so if you want to lay blame, it’s Rivera’s fault for not making Shula do something Different.

but with that said it worked for us all season including two dominating performances in the Playoffs, kinda if it’s not broke don’t fix it. I can’t say I blame them there.

my issue with Fox was him trying to get cute going for two instead of just kicking the extra point. People forget about that. But if we just kick extra points Patriots are playing for the tie not the win. Totally different game. That’s on Fox 100%.

the Cardinals debacle and playing Jake when it was clear he shouldn’t of been starting is also 100% on Fox.

I for the record never did blame Jake for his poor for performance late in his career here. The fact that he was even playing was all on the coaching staff.

and I may get some heat for this, but the biggest reason we lost the Super Bowl in my opinion was because cam wasn’t 100% into the game. If you listen to his comments and remarks before the game he was too interested in becoming a superstar it was saying a lot of crazy stuff leading into the game that made you believe his head really wasn’t in it or where it should’ve been leading into a game of that magnitude. Don’t get me wrong I love me some cam and I fully realize we are never even sniffing that season or Super Bowl without him but to say he is blameless in the loss is far from reality either.

I'm okay with doing what's worked all year as long as you have a fallback plan just in case it doesn't.

Rivera didn't.

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51 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm okay with doing what's worked all year as long as you have a fallback plan just in case it doesn't.

Rivera didn't.

The last Falcons game in December 2015 (the only regular season loss that year) exposed the Panthers O-line and put significant disruptive pressure on Cam.

Broncos took the Falcon's template and put it on steroids during the Superbowl.

Rivera and company didn't have a plan to counter that sort of aggressive defensive pressure during the SB and years later, they still don't have an adequate answer. 

It is beyond frustrating.

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6 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

The last Falcons game in December 2015 (the only regular season loss that year) exposed the Panthers O-line and put significant disruptive pressure on Cam.

Broncos took the Falcon's template and put it on steroids during the Superbowl.

Rivera and company didn't have a plan to counter that sort of aggressive defensive pressure during the SB and years later, they still don't have an adequate answer. 

It is beyond frustrating.

You'd have at least thought the Falcons game would have made somebody say "Ya know, maybe we should do something to account for this just in case somebody else tries it".

The lack of anybody doing that just goes back to the whole "Checkers vs. Chess" thing. Rivera just doesn't think about these things on a high enough level.

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You'd have at least thought the Falcons game would have made somebody say "Ya know, maybe we should do something to account for this just in case somebody else tries it".

The lack of anybody doing that just goes back to the whole "Checkers vs. Chess" thing. Rivera just doesn't think about these things on a high enough level.

No Panthers fan who witnessed the last Falcon's game in 2015 should've been surprised by the Bronco's defensive strategy during the Super Bowl.  Rivera, knowing the Panthers would be facing the best defense in the league should have had an effective counter move locked and loaded for the Super Bowl.  Instead, we got crickets.

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5 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Well we have 4 to choose from and Ron is the only one who had Cam.  It is obviously Ron though.

We'll never know for sure, but as a mental exercise it would be interesting to pair Cam with Fox and Jake with Rivera.

I suspect without Cam's duel threat capability Rivera wouldn't have lasted more than three seasons as the Panthers HC. 

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2 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

No Panthers fan who witnessed the last Falcon's game in 2015 should've been surprised by the Bronco's defensive strategy during the Super Bowl.  Rivera, knowing the Panthers would be facing the best defense in the league should have had an effective counter move locked and loaded for the Super Bowl.  Instead, we got crickets.

Big reason why I don't understand that there are still people who defend keeping him.

Granted, there aren't many left.

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