What we want to see happen to Rivera probably won't.

[Snake]

I've grew up in the business world and as a young child my father would share wisdom with me. One of his quotes was "it's a lot easier to fire a bad worker than a mediocre one". He said a bad worker doesn't care enough to do a job right and makes the choice easy. While a mediocre worker does just enough to not get fired. 

Ron Rivera is that mediocre worker. From Riverboat Ron to being 8-8 not 6-10 Rivera knows just enough not to get fired easily. We have had a whole 3 winning seasons out of him with one a subowl bowl loss. If that sounds familiar it is because John Fox had similar results and the two both have the same philosophy (do just enough to not get fired). 

With Rivera's contract expiring in 2020 and the Roster looking like the same one we saw in 2010 I just have the same feeling we did with Fox. Tepper gutting the team but not wasting money cutting the cancer before he can save some pocket change. Just like JR I feel we will endure another horrible season just so Tepper can get a good draft pick and not have to pay Rivera. Why because it's a lot easier to not extend a mediocre coach after you cut his funding than it is to look like a owner who cut a decent coach. Egos are big in the NFL and JR had a huge one, we will see if Teppers is just as big. 

[Anybodyhome]

Tepper recently made his feelings and thoughts known about mediocrity and, while your points are well taken, I don't think a severance check is going to prevent him from trying to move away from mediocrity by letting Rivera go. After all, why tell everyone that you cannot and will not accept mediocrity and follow that up by keeping the 'head mediocre in charge?'

Thing is, financial success in the NFL is guaranteed, regardless of how good or bad any team is. Tepper is making money off the Panthers, no matter if they're 5-11 or 12-4. He just makes a little more if the team is on the winning side of the scale, and right now it won't take much to get to that place. Keep putting it off and keep waiting around for a contract to expire or a certain head coach to become available and it becomes more expensive. 

I will be shocked if Rivera is kept around another year after what Tepper said. If Rivera does stay, all it tells me is Tepper was spewing soundbites and trying to keep fans around for a few more weeks and not sincere with his own words.  

[rodeo]

i've started to have a feeling sink into my tummy that rivera and hurney will be here next year.

[Montsta]

2 hours ago, rodeo said:

i've started to have a feeling sink into my tummy that rivera and hurney will be here next year.

Unfortunately I agree. Ron will be able to chalk it off as Cam being injured And other BS. 

[hepcat]

Stadium is going to be pretty empty if Rivera is back next year and Cam isn't

[Jus Rob]

Do we really need more Ron Rivera threads 

[LinvilleGorge]

It would be incredibly disappointing to see Hurney and Rivera survive this and it would definitely make me heavily question the franchise's future under Tepper. It would feel like at that point that nothing has changed from the JR era on the football side of the operation.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Tepper likely loses more pocket change in the seat cushions of his corporate jets than it takes to pay Ron Rivera for a season.  

Dave doesn't strike me as a man that says or does anything without a well thought out purpose behind it.

There was no need for Tepper to schedule a news conference and then tell reporters he would not tolerate mediocrity from the team, but he did.

Things on the field have not improved since that news conference.

Ron is as good as gone.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Tepper likely loses more pocket change in the seat cushions of his corporate jets than it takes to pay Ron Rivera for a season.  

Dave doesn't strike me as a man that says or does anything without a well thought out purpose behind it.

There was no need for Tepper to schedule a news conference and then tell reporters he would not tolerate mediocrity from the team, but he did.

Things on the field have not improved since that news conference.

Ron is as good as gone.

Honestly, that's what I think too. There really isn't much point to fire a coach mid-season unless there's off-field reasons which I very seriously doubt with Ron or there's a young coach on the current staff that you want to give a test drive at HC and I don't see that either.

[rhyslloyd]

If this season doesn't end with Ron getting his bare ass spanked by Tepper at the corner of Mint and Graham with all of his poo neatly packed and set on fire, I'm going to be extremely disappointed.  

[LinvilleGorge]

16 minutes ago, rhyslloyd said:

If this season doesn't end with Ron getting his bare ass spanked by Tepper at the corner of Mint and Graham with all of his poo neatly packed and set on fire, I'm going to be extremely disappointed.  

I don't see any need to make it any worse than it has to be. This isn't a Lane Kiffin situation. It's just time for both parties to go their separate ways. I for one hope and honestly expect it to be an amicable divorce.

[Happy Panther]

4 hours ago, Snake said:

I've grew up in the business world and as a young child my father would share wisdom with me. One of his quotes was "it's a lot easier to fire a bad worker than a mediocre one".

I've been a hiring manager and while your anecdote is factually true I don't think it is a good comparison unless you are talking CEO of a fortune 500 company.

A head coach will have an extensive resume so you can evaluate decades of performance not just what is on a one page resume. Unless Tepper is a loser, he wants to excel. 

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

I've been a hiring manager and while your anecdote is factually true I don't think it is a good comparison unless you are talking CEO of a fortune 500 company.

A head coach will have an extensive resume so you can evaluate decades of performance not just what is on a one page resume. Unless Tepper is a loser, he wants to excel. 

Yeah, I don't think it really applies when you're talking about a position paying millions of dollars per year with only 32 opportunities available. We're not talking about some $45k per year rank and file paper pusher. Mediocre in the former is a back breaker. Mediocre in the latter really doesn't hurt you and is probably perfectly acceptable if they're a good team player and well liked by their peers.

[PootieNunu]

1 hour ago, Jus Rob said:

Do we really need more Ron Rivera threads 

We don't even need Ron Rivera, much less threads about him, but that's beside the point.