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1of10Charnatives

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40 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

We’re all Panther fans right, that’s why we’re here, presumably. So why do we seem to spend all our time actively looking for the slightest most minute differences we have as fans and then dogmatically argue those differences as if the fate of the world depended on us winning? And why is it incumbent that we insult, belittle and jeer at each other while we do it? As if this approach has ever in the history of the world gotten someone else to see things your way.

Cam vs Kyle

Gettleman vs Hurney

Rivera supporters vs Rivera haters

Tepper good vs Tepper bad

Why are these things religious jihads instead of brotherly points of minor debate amongst fans united by a common passion?

In the spirit of the season, I’m gonna challenge the Huddle to collectively take a deep breathe, step back and realize that what we have in common matters far more than such minor differences, and that maybe that means we don’t need to insult each other just because we don’t have identical views. Let’s all remember that for all our differences there is something more important that we can all agree on:

 

Jerome Boger is a terrible, terrible referee.

First time on the Internet?

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1 minute ago, Happy Panther said:

our cat is an ahole but he adores my youngest son. And I spent $5k to remove a foam ball from his belly. But I guess he is family...

 

I would have both but during peak season my job has days I leave the house at 8am don’t get home til 10pm and they aren’t predictable so the low maintenance pet is what I have. Richard Parker is often eager to show me where he puked up his food again though. Thank you Jesus for hardwoods.

5k is ouch.

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Other than it being the internet, something between free therapy and a place to anonymously be uncivil, maybe because our team hasn't been very good for long enough for it to be just talk about good football. Most of the time is spent on how we think we can get to being good, staying there because we have never done that and why we continuously are a mediocre team. 2015 followed by 2016 is a great example and 2016 to this point is just a massive let down. Having Cam and Luke, now plus CMC, and still not having winning to likely be relevant for one year let alone multiple is anger inducing stuff. What we can factually talk about is wasted talent, underachieving outcomes and soft football. So we do. 

Edit: Also lots of pretending to be good, trying to convince ourselves it's different this time and then having the team prove us wrong is a recurring theme. 

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1 hour ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

We’re all Panther fans right, that’s why we’re here, presumably. So why do we seem to spend all our time actively looking for the slightest most minute differences we have as fans and then dogmatically argue those differences as if the fate of the world depended on us winning? And why is it incumbent that we insult, belittle and jeer at each other while we do it? As if this approach has ever in the history of the world gotten someone else to see things your way.

Cam vs Kyle

Gettleman vs Hurney

Rivera supporters vs Rivera haters

Tepper good vs Tepper bad

Why are these things religious jihads instead of brotherly points of minor debate amongst fans united by a common passion?

In the spirit of the season, I’m gonna challenge the Huddle to collectively take a deep breathe, step back and realize that what we have in common matters far more than such minor differences, and that maybe that means we don’t need to insult each other just because we don’t have identical views. Let’s all remember that for all our differences there is something more important that we can all agree on:

 

Jerome Boger is a terrible, terrible referee.

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1 hour ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

We’re all Panther fans right, that’s why we’re here, presumably. So why do we seem to spend all our time actively looking for the slightest most minute differences we have as fans and then dogmatically argue those differences as if the fate of the world depended on us winning? And why is it incumbent that we insult, belittle and jeer at each other while we do it? As if this approach has ever in the history of the world gotten someone else to see things your way.

Cam vs Kyle

Gettleman vs Hurney

Rivera supporters vs Rivera haters

Tepper good vs Tepper bad

Why are these things religious jihads instead of brotherly points of minor debate amongst fans united by a common passion?

In the spirit of the season, I’m gonna challenge the Huddle to collectively take a deep breathe, step back and realize that what we have in common matters far more than such minor differences, and that maybe that means we don’t need to insult each other just because we don’t have identical views. Let’s all remember that for all our differences there is something more important that we can all agree on:

 

Jerome Boger is a terrible, terrible referee.

no, no, no f'n way.   this will not do.   the season of festivus is upon us.  

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Truth is that most threads are dominated by a dozen posters who set the tone for everyone else. And if you spend a lot of time here you naturally are going to be emotional and passionate about your views and argue vehemently for your point of view sometimes to the point of personal attacks. Then add the rapid decline in civility brought on by the extreme political divide and frequent personal attacks and the huddle is just mirroring society in general.

With that depressing report let me end with a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy holidays and the rest. I think folks can change this if they really want to.I don't think they want to.

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I dont think its because its minutia, those topics are some of our most controversial and divisive topics.  Like it or not our fanbase is young and immature.  Everything is pretty much our first.  Some of us are more seasoned than others but, for the most part our fans are just exiting our 1st generation.  If we're allowed to grow as a fanbase for 50-100 years the fans will know what to expect.  We dont even really have a Hall of Fame yet.  (I know, I know Green/White). No Panther that has been with this franchise during his best seasons is in the Hall.  Its literally just a matter of time/experience.

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