Postgame issue with Odell Beckham and LSU players

[TheBlue]

5 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Not for the someone else unless they too agreed to it as well.  If all parties agree then neither can bitch and whine about what they agreed to.  Who is the 3rd party in this?  

No. That’s against the law. You can’t sew people’s mouths to other people’s buttholes. Even if someone knowingly or unknowingly agrees to it. 
 

that isn’t a valid defense.

[TheBlue]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

sure it is extremely complicated.  Hence why your argument is just pay them.  That's it.  That's your argument.  Nothing more to it. 

Tell me what a Joe Burrow should of been paid this season

Tell me what the 3rd string S on LSY should of been paid this season

Tell me what Trevor Lawrence should of been paid this season

Tell me what the QB at Wake Forest should of been paid this season

The DB at the Citadel.

The woman who does the backstroke on the woman's swim team at Lander. 

If it is so simple....start with what amount would be realistic for them or what formula should be used

Once we establish whatever system you have in place to pay them? Then we can move and talk about the impacts of paying them. 

It isn't simple.  Let them go pro straight from high school if they want.  Let them go after a year.  Who cares.  That is the smart first step.   

Of course it is. Sorry your pee brain can’t comprehend it but it’s very simple. 
 

strip student athlete label. 
 

kids are now workers for the school they choose to go to. 
 

allow all kids to organize their labor like nfl players union.

 

allow union to collectively bargain on behalf of the students. 
 

in that bargain comes out how much KO’d gets paid. 
 

It’s very simple. What isnt simple is completely getting rid of the college game. Cause that’s what happens in your plan. 
 

if there is no requirement holding them to college the best Athletes won’t go. Not to mention the kids who will be chewed up and spit out of the nfl for going when they weren’t ready. College is a farm system that needs to continue but they need to get paid their value. You have no contention for that because you don’t actually understand the problem. Now go fug up some other thread

[CRA]

18 minutes ago, TheBlue said:

Of course it is. Sorry your pee brain can’t comprehend it but it’s very simple. 
 

strip student athlete label. 
 

kids are now workers for the school they choose to go to. 
 

allow all kids to organize their labor like nfl players union.

 

allow union to collectively bargain on behalf of the students. 
 

in that bargain comes out how much KO’d gets paid. 
 

It’s very simple. What isnt simple is completely getting rid of the college game. Cause that’s what happens in your plan. 
 

if there is no requirement holding them to college the best Athletes won’t go. Not to mention the kids who will be chewed up and spit out of the nfl for going when they weren’t ready. College is a farm system that needs to continue but they need to get paid their value. You have no contention for that because you don’t actually understand the problem. Now go fug up some other thread

Again, tell me what a Joe Burrow should be getting paid vs a Trevor Lawrence vs the a DB at the Citadel vs the girl doing the backstroke at Winthrop.   Establish what you think the formula should be to pay these different type of athletes at different schools.....THEN we can talk about the problems.   The ones you don't even contemplate. 

Let them go straight pro.  I've already said I am cool with it.  And plenty of the best athletes would still go to college. 

You got to look at college athletics in general.  Not just want Ohio St football generates while Chase Young happens to play there.   It is much bigger discussion than just football.  Which is what the pay them really stems from.  Football. 

But you haven't dipped your toe into any actual conversation that address the big picture discussion

 

 

[Ricky Spanish]

15 hours ago, Carolina Cajun said:

Did shaq make his money in orlando or LA?

He made his money in college, everybody knows that. 

[TheBlue]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Again, tell me what a Joe Burrow should be getting paid vs a Trevor Lawrence vs the a DB at the Citadel vs the girl doing the backstroke at Winthrop.   Establish what you think the formula should be to pay these different type of athletes at different schools.....THEN we can talk about the problems.   The ones you don't even contemplate. 

Let them go straight pro.  I've already said I am cool with it.  And plenty of the best athletes would still go to college. 

You got to look at college athletics in general.  Not just want Ohio St football generates while Chase Young happens to play there.   It is much bigger discussion than just football.  Which is what the pay them really stems from.  Football. 

But you haven't dipped your toe into any actual conversation that address the big picture discussion

 

 

Lmao I’m not going to give you dollar for dollar what these kids should be getting paid. There are many people more qualified than me that can sit don’t and hash out numbers. They exist.

 

you are arguing that is it impossible to find a way to get these kids paid their value. You are dead wrong. Thanks for playing

[CRA]

1 hour ago, hanklee89 said:

1. Whatever the market dictates. If a booster wants to write a check for $150K, great. If it's $300K, great. 

2. See above. 

3. See No. 1

4. See No. 1

5. See No. 1

6. See No. 1

Private entities (in this case, booster departments) can pay their employees whatever they want. By having kids get paid endorsements off their NLI, the schools avoid the hassle of paying them and making them employees in the eyes of the government. If Trevor Lawrence is worth $1 million to Nike or whoever wants to endorse him, so be it. There will be market correction after these boosters get burned by kids who are busts out of high school. Until then, the first wave of paid players are gonna get taken care of very well. 

Whatever the market dictates? Market dictates that majority of student athletes don’t deserve much at all.  This conversation is about a very select few in reality.  It isn’t true concern for the actual student athlete in general. 

Market also would have dictated Joe Burrow wouldn’t of gotten squat compared to Trevor this year 

 

[Captain Obvious]

OOPS.

[Mr. Scot]

Odell's been busy...

 

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

That entire cop situation is so stupid.  They must have bet on Clemson.

[Mr. Scot]

 

[Khaki Lackey]

Don't try novelty bills with a prostitute. Trust me on this one.

[Waldo]

Who invited cops to the locker room? 

This is why you pass on talent like Odell. From a competitors perspective, it's pure gold. A perfect example to your own players on what not to do and why and just endless entertainment . 

[MHS831]

17 hours ago, Kuechly&Moore said:

who cares? It's high time they got paid at that level anyways.... 

College athletics are amateurs.  Students playing a game against students.  If you pay them a salary, the purpose for building colleges is distorted by greed.  Just form a damn minor league and stop pretending these athletes are students.  Most are not.  Sure, you could offer students an opportunity to play football for scholarships etc. but those who want to get paid should find a way to promote themselves and go play for a minor league team--

 

[Mr. Scot]

The Browns have issued a statement on the incident. Wanna guess what it says?

(I feel like I could write these myself at this point)

There's also word that LSU might end up telling Beckham "Thanks for your support but I think we should see other people."