For those who want to tank for Trevor Lawrence?

[Real1zOnly]

How do you tank for Trevor Lawrence if we are bringing back Cam Newton?

Surely Rhule/Marty know this. This is why im not buying Cam Newton coming back. They want a rebuild and preferably with a young QB. They can't rebuild with a 31 year old Cam Newton who may be broken physically. If the goal is to get a top QB next year that wont happen with Cam Newton as starter. Cam will not allow us to be the worst team in the NFL, it's not in his DNA.

Just keep that in mind for those who think keeping Cam and tanking for Lawrence is possible.

[brandon_87]

To be fair, when was the last time cam won a game? Maybe keeping him is tanking

[mc52beast]

2 minutes ago, brandon_87 said:

To be fair, when was the last time cam won a game? Maybe keeping him is tanking

When was the last time Cam was healthy? Probably the last time he won a game.

[stbugs]

11 minutes ago, Real1zOnly said:

How do you tank for Trevor Lawrence if we are bringing back Cam Newton?

Surely Rhule/Marty know this. This is why im not buying Cam Newton coming back. They want a rebuild and preferably with a young QB. They can't rebuild with a 31 year old Cam Newton who may be broken physically. If the goal is to get a top QB next year that wont happen with Cam Newton as starter. Cam will not allow us to be the worst team in the NFL, it's not in his DNA.

Just keep that in mind for those who think keeping Cam and tanking for Lawrence is possible.

Yeah, that’s what I’ve been saying. Getting rid of Cam is effectively tanking. It’s not even trying to lose, it’s the reality that if they start Grier and don’t go hog wild in FA (we could get a bunch of good comp picks), we are right there in the bottom.

I just laugh at the anti-tanking folks when both times we’ve done it, we got to a SB in 5 years or less and got to the playoffs in 3 years both times.

[thefuzz]

13 minutes ago, Real1zOnly said:

How do you tank for Trevor Lawrence if we are bringing back Cam Newton?

Surely Rhule/Marty know this. This is why im not buying Cam Newton coming back. They want a rebuild and preferably with a young QB. They can't rebuild with a 31 year old Cam Newton who may be broken physically. If the goal is to get a top QB next year that wont happen with Cam Newton as starter. Cam will not allow us to be the worst team in the NFL, it's not in his DNA.

Just keep that in mind for those who think keeping Cam and tanking for Lawrence is possible.

It's not.  We either play Grier and Allen and lug through the season with a sunrise on the horizon, or we keep Cam and win less than 8 games, find ourselves on the outside looking in again, and who knows where we would be with Cam's contract moving forward.

Status quo will put us in the same shopping cart as the Lions....that's no mans land.

[Mr. Scot]

I'm not interested in tanking for anybody.

The whole idea is honestly kind of silly.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

Joe Brady did not come here to wait a season before he had his QB.

[Rags]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not interested in tanking for anybody.

The whole idea is honestly kind of silly.

Depends on the situation. If you're in rebuild mode, tank early.

But if you're tanking for one player to fix your team

 

you're doing it wrong 

[LinvilleGorge]

Tanking for a specific player just isn't smart. The guy can end up getting hurt like Tua or someone could simply suck worse than you and end up getting the #1 overall pick despite you sucking. Then, there's the always present possibility that the prospect you're in love with ends up being an outright bust or perhaps even worse, just decent. Good enough to keep you from pursuing another QB, but not quite good enough to make you a legit contender.

[Mr. Scot]

I feel fairly certain we're going to lose a lot of games this year whether we're trying to or not.

[Skack25]

I hate the offseason.

[Varking]

I don't want to tank. I am tired of watching the boys struggle. However, Cam for one year going 9-7 isn't going to make us better long term. If they are going to tank they need to trade him. And if that is the scenario I can take it for one more year to snag a Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields. 

[Piff]

Tanking is a loser's mentality. If they decide to go that route this team will become the Browns. 

[DeAngelo Beason]

1 hour ago, mc52beast said:

When was the last time Cam was healthy? Probably the last time he won a game.

Your point?  Being healthy is one part of being good.