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After 25-years, we finally knocked a draft out of the park!  This coming for a guy who normally doesn't like, um, isn't happy with...ah crap why sugar-coat it...HATES our drafts.  I stated earlier this offseason, I've NEVER, EVER given any of our drafts an 'A'.  I think a couple scored B+.

I'm ELATED to say this draft earned a solid 'A"!

 

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18 minutes ago, onmyown said:

I’ll let you know in 1-2 years...I’m not exactly sure what you go off of saying you love this draft or we did well...value maybe? Hurney not being an idiot? I mean yea ok
 

Hopefully by then the Panthers aren’t still ignoring the oline...we’d be breaking status quo’s competing with an oline consistently in the bottom half of the NFL...like it hasn’t happened in over a decade...that’s pretty damn cocky

quite a feat... I’m curious how exactly they plan to do it after no one else ever has and even more so how they can be that confident. I guess they still have time to address it, just weird they didn’t in the best oline draft for years

Easy... If you care about the draft process then you can say if you liked the players we got or not... Waiting 2 years later is cheating and a different breakdown... If a player gets hurt that sucks but it doesn't mean he was a bad draft pick... We're only talking about the players coming out of college their value fitting the round they were picked... Was it good or not..

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2 hours ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Yeah, OP doesn't watch much football. He just watches the Panthers, so I understand how he was confused on the Robinson pick. LOL. 

I watch alot of Football.. So sorry I didn't watch XFL or West Virginia to much.. I was more confused about picking another safety not the player..

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2 hours ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Yeah, OP doesn't watch much football. He just watches the Panthers, so I understand how he was confused on the Robinson pick. LOL. 

Seriously? Unless you were a WVU fan or watched the XFL, it’s not surprising at all that people don’t know every safety in the draft. I’d never heard of him before. He certainly wasn’t at the combine and wasn't going to be at the WVU pro day that didn’t happen. He definitely wasn’t on any top safety list I looked at, but in here everyone knew about him in 2018 and think he was a first round prospect.

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I really liked the draft. First four rounds especially and honestly that’s all that needs to hit. If any of the 5-7 rounders or UDFAs work out then so much the better. I do think that there were some guys I liked better at 6 than Roy, like Wanogho or People-Jones. More thinking that if there were guys with higher ceilings and Roy might have been there later. If Roy makes UDFA, he should be an easy get. The only other thing was not getting a WR but there weren’t any guys I’d rather not have in rounds 1-4. 

Overall, very happy. Way happier than the last two years where there were multiple players in rounds 1-4 that I (and most others) didn’t like at all.

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I've always been a step back and analize kind of guy. I thought picks like Daeshon Hall and Gaulden made sense. And in a sense, I still do. I know picks don't always work out. Hell we can end up hating Brown and loving our 6th round pick who's name I forgot. Football is wild.

But this draft is different. Don't know if it's me or Rhule and Hurndog killed it, but man this draft just. Flowed. I'm not expecting all these picks to be hits but...I can honestly see all these guys playing well enough to at least keep a roster spot and help our team win. And that's all you can ask for.

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round 1 was ok, i still think simmons was the logical choice as he fits what we want to do, fast and versatile. and with as many holes as there are on this defense, i think getting someone who can play multiple spots wouldve been a better choice over a nose tackle at 7. there are runstuffers still available in free agency and later in the draft and i think simmons is a very rare prospect that we won't see anything like for a good amount of time. that being said, brown'll be solid for sure. i was initially quite disappointed with the pick, and i am still lower on it than most folks here. but, the prospect of burns-brown-short-gross-matos has warmed me up to it. time will tell, on this one. i'd grade brown a B, if simmons wasn't there, probably a B+.

round 2, on the other hand, i absolutely LOVED. gross-matos at 38 is amazing value, i saw him mocked late in the first round, and he has great potential & tools. solid building block to pair with weatherly and burns on the edge.  jeremy chinn certainly eases the disappointment of passing on simmons, as picking up a versatile player with those physical traits and the willingness to hit is exactly what this defense needs. hunger and big hits, exactly what you want in a defense. another cool note is that chinn is steve atwaters nephew, who was a hall of fame safety known for his ferocious hits. the best part? no unathletic tweeners from small schools. no reaches, which is very unherniayish. our round 2 picks both get A++s from me.

round 4, is ok. i like pride and i see we're definitely going for athletic, boom or bust guys, which i can appreciate as it shows we actually do have a direction here. i admittedly didnt know much about pride prior to us picking him, and thus i cant gush over this too much. i'd have probably preferred biadasz here, but this gets a solid C+ from me. not bad.

round 5, with robinson i was let down at first before reading more into him after the selection. just seems like someone who can be coached up and likely wouldve been at least a 3rd rounder had he stayed at WVU. i don't believe we really needed another safety, but eh, might as well take high potential guys instead of taking JAGs. on top of that, he can play CB. B.

 

round 6, rhule of course taking one of his former players. don't know much about him, although he did lead the conference in TFLs for DTs, so that's neat.

 

round 7, don't know this guy at all so i won't comment on it. i don't expect much from 7th rounders anyway.

 

ratings:

brown: B

gross-matos: A+

chinn: A+

pride: C+

robinson: B

 

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It is the first draft I can remember not shaking my head at something we did (or a couple of somethings).  We filled needs on the much-lacking defensive side of the ball with some excellent prospects.  We addressed an awful DL with two likely starters and some potential depth.

Grades are speculative, at best.  I wanted Brown, and I think he is a game changer.  I was impressed with the quality we found after that.  This was a deep draft in a several positions.  Some we did not even take advantage of, but other teams did and left people on the board at positions we needed.  The common thread was players that don't seem to take plays off.

Equally impressive, we did nothing stupid regarding trades or overvaluing "diamonds in the rough."

I have no idea who was doing what in the decision making process.  Like everybody, I have suspicions, but they are just that.  Whatever the roles were, I am impressed with what happened the last three days.  Now we'll see what it translates to on the field, but I am optimistic for this group.

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I like that they put their foot down and decided to focus solely on the defense. The picks seem to be consensus good value for the spot but until we can see them in camp I’m not going to be definitive but this has been Hurney best draft top to bottom on paper by far. 

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4 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Day 1 and 2 was exciting

Day 3 i think we did well

Best draft I can remeber for the Panthers

This.

To get a premier, top 5 player (Brown) and then turn around and get a late-first round talent (thank God Marty did not get a trade partner), and then Chinn--a player I felt was a second round talent hands down---that is a good 2 days.  3 picks, 3 starters.

Then you had the Pride (CB, 4th) and Robinson (S, 5th) picks.  Maybe not immediately, but I see nobody better than Pride at CB on the current roster....that could be 4 starters---on defense.  Then you have Robinson--and he could easily challenge Boston for the FS job within a year.  And then there is Roy---he will be part of a rotation. 

It is very likely that this draft found 5 starters for 2021.  Think about that.  Chinn, Brown, YGM, Robinson, Pride--and a rotational NT.  Most drafts find 1 maybe 2 starters.  We found 4-5.

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Grades (considering the pick and round):

Brown A (should be future all pro)

YGM A (will start in 2020)

Chinn A- (should knock Burris out of the starting lineup)

Pride B (Not bad value for the round--would like to have had him sooner, but he could be good)

Robinson A- (I think that Robinson covers more ground and is a better tackler that Boston, based on what little film I have seen)

Thomas-Oliver ? A project. I can't grade it because I have no idea what he will become--they did not draft him based on what he is.

Note to panthers:  Stop drafting players with hyphens in their last name-it is like a luncheon full of professional women who are married but do not want to lose their identities.

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