Teddy Bridgewater vs. the Field

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Teddy Bridgewater is the Carolina Panthers of the NFL. 

That's just hurtful.

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Teddy Bridgewater is the Carolina Panthers of the NFL. 

The Panthers have had some fantastic seasons. Bridgewater hasn't.

[LinvilleGorge]

The Panthers' 7-9 playoffs season was the equivalent of Bridgewater's Pro Bowl season.

[Basbear]

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Panthers have had some fantastic seasons. Bridgewater hasn't.

Hes gone to the pro-bowl(I know) and played in the playoffs. Was a 1st rounder. Teddy has had plenty of highs and lows same as panthers!

[kungfoodude]

@LinvilleGorge

[Basbear]

21 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Panthers' 7-9 playoffs season was the equivalent of Bridgewater's Pro Bowl season.

You making my statement correct with this......

[rippadonn]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm more excited about Walker than Teddy. IMO, Teddy is a known commodity. He's in that good backup/marginal starter camp. Walker at least offers the intrigue of being an unknown commodity in the NFL.

I'd have more fun watching Will Grier or Walker.

Not at all looking forward to boring football.

 

 

[Wes21]

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I think most of those middle of the pack QB's like Teddy are going to have lots of good arguments for and against when you compare them to the other middle of the pack guys. Elite QB's are likely to be elite just about anywhere, bad QB's are likely to be bad just about anywhere but that middle group is going to really depend a lot on the situation around them. That is actually why I thought this would generate a lot of good discussions for why to take some of them over others. Some will be eye of the beholder, some will be injury history/age, some will be offensive fit, etc, etc.

 

Like I said, I did this exercise over the phone with a buddy and we had a lot of fun debating the different QB's.

I can definitely appreciate that.  To me Teddy is in a special category of "middle of the road," right beside Alex Smith.  They are both smart players with lots of talent.  People talk about guys who trust their talent too much and it gets them in to trouble, but Smith and Teddy are the opposite.  They don't trust their talent enough.  But rest assured, there is a rhyme and a reason to what he does.  Even when he makes mistakes, there's a reason to it.  There isn't a lot of "panic" and bad decisions to his game.

[Icege]

4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I could understand perhaps some of that thought process but why Burrow? That dude literally ran this offense last year. Frankly, he is probably the most suited QB we could find.

If assessing based on the future? Def would go Burrow. But Brady also feels Bridgewater is the guy to go with now, and if Burrow was unquestionably the guy I think they'd have traded the farm for him.

Fwiw i think they plan for Brady to be poached, hence the attention being paid to building the defense for the long term. Idk if Snow is looking to be a head coach at his age, but I like the offense being built for now while the defense is tooled for the long term

[Madwolf]

On 5/2/2020 at 5:04 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

I just don't know where this idea is coming from that he's this guy who makes quick reads and gets the ball out quickly. He's not Drew Brees. He did what a good backup does and he held the fort down admirably last year while Brees was out, but if you were actually watching the games it was very clear that he didn't just step into Brees' shoes. There was a stark difference in his play and Brees and it's reflected in the numbers.

I think it will be interesting to see how he improves his time to throw with an offense built around him. I expect it to improve a little bit this year as a full time starter to the point where he's right around 15. 

[4Corners]

3 hours ago, Madwolf said:

I think it will be interesting to see how he improves his time to throw with an offense built around him. I expect it to improve a little bit this year as a full time starter to the point where he's right around 15. 

Hey dude - I recall arguing with you a couple weeks ago when you incorrectly and ignorantly claimed UNC basketball and football are dirty, cheating programs. I advised you to worry about Louisville because they were fixin’ to get cracked again by the NCAA. 
 

UL just received another NOA from their dear friends in Indianapolis regarding the adidas stuff. Multiple level 2 and a level 1 infractions - all while on probation. Incredible. Chris Mack may be looking for a new job soon. Have a nice rest of the day. 

[Moo Daeng]

I'm glad I don't have so much time to look for new ways to be a pessimist.

[MasterAwesome]

On 5/2/2020 at 5:19 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

I know people want to desperately cling to that six game stretch of filling in that Bridgewater where he put up solid numbers. To that I would just say to look at Kyle Allen's first 6 starts.

Bridgewater's 6 games:

5-1 record. Face 1 playoff team.

132-195 for 1370 yards and 9 TDs vs. 2 INTs. 67.7% completion rate. 12 sacks. 1 fumble.

Kyle Allen's first 6 games:

5-1 record. Faced 3 playoff teams.

116-191 for 1291 yards and 9 TDs vs. 4 INTs. 60.7% completion rate. 20 sacks. 6 fumbles.

People keep ragging on me for saying that Bridgewater is basically Kyle Allen minus the fumbles, but... he is.

 

 

One of the things you repeatedly highlight to show how much better Brees was than Bridgewater last year was the fact that his completion percentage was 7 points higher...but the fact that Bridgewater’s completion percentage was 7 points higher than Allen’s is apparently some throwaway stat that doesn’t even deserve mentioning? The only statistically significant difference between the two was their fumbles, I guess...

[LinvilleGorge]

36 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

One of the things you repeatedly highlight to show how much better Brees was than Bridgewater last year was the fact that his completion percentage was 7 points higher...but the fact that Bridgewater’s completion percentage was 7 points higher than Allen’s is apparently some throwaway stat that doesn’t even deserve mentioning? The only statistically significant difference between the two was their fumbles, I guess...

Bridgewater and Brees were playing in the same system with the same supporting cast. It's a much better direct comparison than Bridgewater and Allen who were playing in completely different systems with a completely different supporting casts. I just assumed people didn't need that spelled out.