Farewell Carolina - Newton's Vlog (Awesome Vid)

[Delhomme2Muhammad]

32 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

 

Tepper has made literally billions of dollars by taking in data, assessing risk, and making decisions. He has had access to all of Cam's health records along with opinions from team and other doctors. I just cannot see Tepper being short sighted. He has let go of a ton of revenue by letting Cam go and he knew that would happen. For a guy like Tepper to lose a franchise QB AND a ton of revenue it would take some pretty conclusive information regarding Cam's shoulder. But we shall see. This is definitely Tepper's team now. If Cam balls out for an entire season in NE then he will have egg on his face. 

You're not as smart as you think you are, bro.

[Jeremy Igo]

5 minutes ago, Delhomme2Muhammad said:

You're not as smart as you think you are, bro.

Excellent rebuttal. Cheers. 

[Delhomme2Muhammad]

There''s more to come.

[Khyber53]

That was a classy video, especially in the beginning where he went back to the announcement of release and how he had dedicated that day to work and was not carrying a grudge. Whether you think he could play anymore or not, you can't argue that the guy wasn't a good man, through and through.

Maybe that good man will change Belichick. Perhaps the new student can change the master and let a little light in.

[1of10Charnatives]

6 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

If Cam is successful in NE, get ready to hear the narrative that it proves Belichick is the real genius and he made Tom Brady.

The sports media has already got that one cocked and aimed.

Maybe.

But the narrative ought to be, if the sports media were being completely honest, that if you take a lot of talent, a smart but unethical coach, and a powerful owner with the league in his back pocket, then cheat systemically, over time you'll win more than you should.

One of the things that helped Brady seemed super human is that he was almost always working with a clean pocket and especially after he lost the one season to injury, never got hit hard when the rush did occasionally get to him. Does any objective observer really think that over the top protective officiating played no part in this?

Does any objective observer really think that the Patriots and the Patriots alone, had such good offensive line coaching that over the course of Brady's career they were able to take pretty much anybody, plug them into that line, and regardless of how much of a bum that player may have looked like elsewhere or how little pedigree he lacked coming out of college, magically he and every other lineman around him always seemed to perform at an extremely high level year after year after year, keeping Brady safer from the rush than just about any other qb in the league?

C'mon

We all know better, and so does the sports media.

They just don't have the balls to say it.

[1of10Charnatives]

44 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

That was a classy video, especially in the beginning where he went back to the announcement of release and how he had dedicated that day to work and was not carrying a grudge. Whether you think he could play anymore or not, you can't argue that the guy wasn't a good man, through and through.

Maybe that good man will change Belichick. Perhaps the new student can change the master and let a little light in.

Agree about the video. Very classy on Cam's part. Hate hate hate to lose not only such a gifted athlete but a good man. Regarding the notion he may be able to sway Bellicheat, I will offer something Dr. King once said:

"I am no longer optimistic, but I remain hopeful."

[1of10Charnatives]

58 minutes ago, Delhomme2Muhammad said:

You're not as smart as you think you are, bro.

Smart people make counterarguments instead of launching ad hominem attacks.

Just sayin.

[therealmjl]

2 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

 

Tepper has made literally billions of dollars by taking in data, assessing risk, and making decisions. He has had access to all of Cam's health records along with opinions from team and other doctors. I just cannot see Tepper being short sighted. He has let go of a ton of revenue by letting Cam go and he knew that would happen. For a guy like Tepper to lose a franchise QB AND a ton of revenue it would take some pretty conclusive information regarding Cam's shoulder. But we shall see. This is definitely Tepper's team now. If Cam balls out for an entire season in NE then he will have egg on his face. 

Tepper hasn’t done jack poo in the NFL all that other stuff doesn’t even matter.

Did he run the same analytics for his decision on keeping Hurney around?

[Delhomme2Muhammad]

34 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Smart people make counterarguments instead of launching ad hominem attacks.

Just sayin.

Do you realise your comment is not definitive, therefore not correct? 

[GoobyPls]

Weren’t some people in this forum saying Cam wanted a new contract, that’s why we signed Teddy.

[raleigh-panther]

8 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

That’s exactly what’s going to happen. It’s just so short sighted and stupid by Tepper and Rhule.  I support a lot of the changes we’ve made and I thought we did great in the draft but not giving Cam another chance with  a roster that finally addressed the supporting cast issues that plagued his career is just dumb. 
 

There’s no universe where Bridgewater is better than Cam, scheme or no scheme. There’s no player you can draft that would be better than the years you could maximize out of Cam. It comes across as vindictive and arrogant.

Yep

two things occur to me 

1. If Teddy is all that, and knowing Brees is retiring after this season, why would Payton let him go ?  

2. I’ll take the opinion of a six time Super Bowl winning coach over the likes of Rhule and joe Brady and Tepper any day. One coach does it in the NFL , the others talK and talk and talk  Arrogant is the right word for ole Dave billions do that 

For the first time since the Panthers came in 1995, I find myself not very interested  I’ve heard the song and dance for many years. Maybe it’s the turnover. Maybe it’s COVID. maybe I find something snarky and sneaky in the Brady, Rhule, Tepper that even winning can’t change. Or maybe, all things end in time 

[raleigh-panther]

3 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

 

Tepper has made literally billions of dollars by taking in data, assessing risk, and making decisions. He has had access to all of Cam's health records along with opinions from team and other doctors. I just cannot see Tepper being short sighted. He has let go of a ton of revenue by letting Cam go and he knew that would happen. For a guy like Tepper to lose a franchise QB AND a ton of revenue it would take some pretty conclusive information regarding Cam's shoulder. But we shall see. This is definitely Tepper's team now. If Cam balls out for an entire season in NE then he will have egg on his face. 

If only those things win championships, the Browns would be holding a trophy, yes?

not sure with HIPAA laws what Tepper knows or doesn’t know and I’m not sure it would have mattered in any case   Fairly disingenuous all the way around 

Frankly, I hope he does have egg on his face. A lot of it. A little humility would do him good.  Karma is a bitch  

After decades in the Corporate world, I’m very leery of someone who always says the right things in public....in public is key word here  

[Anybodyhome]

2 hours ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Does any objective observer really think that the Patriots and the Patriots alone, had such good offensive line coaching that over the course of Brady's career they were able to take pretty much anybody, plug them into that line, and regardless of how much of a bum that player may have looked like elsewhere or how little pedigree he lacked coming out of college, magically he and every other lineman around him always seemed to perform at an extremely high level year after year after year, keeping Brady safer from the rush than just about any other qb in the league?

C'mon

We all know better, and so does the sports media.

They just don't have the balls to say it.

It will be very interesting to see if Cam Newton gets the same protection from his O-line and the refs that Brady enjoyed for his entire career.

It will also be interesting to see if Brady enjoys the same protections he's been afforded by the officials now that he's in Tampa Bay.

[LinvilleGorge]

I'm just not sure if Tepper's success managing investments is all that relevant to creating success on the football field. The two are just really, really different.

I mean, we can't talk about his genius ability to analyze things and then just gloss over the reality that Marty Hurney is still our GM.