Derrick Brown showing his true value

[Jeremy Igo]

Just now, hepcat said:

I can't believe people were already calling him a bust

No one worth paying attention to. 

[Jesse]

Well they set their protection up to the right, so they were sliding to their right side while big-on-big on the left. This allows the RB to pick up any green dog and go out on a route. More importantly is that the big-on-big side is Herbert's first read, obviously by the direction he looks as he's taking the snap.

I wouldn't chalk it up to say Derrick Brown is a legit DT already three games into his rookie season. For every one of these clips, I can find a shitty one from week 1 vs. the Raiders. He is a strong MFer though, look at this tweet:

 

 

https://twitter.com/4ourmanrush/status/1310409584490708994?s=20

[bLACKpANTHER]

47 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Derrick Brown is starting to get double teams much more frequently. 

Example:

Two Chargers offensive line players dedicated solely on Brown allowing another player, this time Obada, to win his one on one matchup and force Herbert into a bad throw. 

Doesn't show on the stat sheet, but damn does having Brown in there make things easier. 

you see Burns recognize that Obada beat his man and is going to sack/pressure the QB.. Burns then stops rushing and gives a little "bunny-hop" to deflect/intercept the pass if it were coming his way.. unfortunately, it was out of his range - but I love his football smarts and instincts 

[Mvp2014]

Burns, Chinn, and Brown all look like ballers and its exciting.  Its been a while since i felt good about our defense.  At least since Hardy and CJ were playing opposite

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

He is a beast. I already worry about that second contract though. Our DTs either leave (Starr) or become useless (KK, Jenkins).

 

[Moo Daeng]

2 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

He is a beast. I already worry about that second contract though. Our DTs either leave (Starr) or become useless (KK, Jenkins).

 

You are worried about his contract after 3 game? 

[BrianS]

I believe the plan there on the initial snap was akin to a TE or RB chipping a DE to help out the T.  The G was a quick bit of help to get Brown stopped, then he looked to see if he could help elsewhere.  It's a good scheme, but it doesn't minimize the idea where the Chargers OC felt they needed to at least help on Brown.

[SCO96]

49 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

He is a beast. I already worry about that second contract though. Our DTs either leave (Starr) or become useless (KK, Jenkins).

 

I find your post interesting because I feel the same way, not just about Panther DT's but the position in general. DT's seem to hit their peak early in their career and decline more sharply than other positions on the defensive side of the ball. Defensive Ends, Linebackers, and a fair number defensive backs are still playing at a high level at 30-32. I can't think of many Defensive Tackles currently in the league who are still DOMINANT as the approach 30. That doesn't mean they can't still be effective, but most of them  don't seem to be as explosive off the ball and as disruptive by their late 20's.

You always have exceptions. And, as long a NT maintains his strength he can be a force up the middle and in the run game. But, I'd always pick the DE over the DT if I had to decide which player was going to get the big contract (Unless it's an Aaron Donald, Randy White, Joe Greene, or John Randle of course)

[Davidson Deac II]

All I saw in that clip was that number 76 for the Chargers did a horrible job on that play.  

[shaqattaq]

1 hour ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

He is a beast. I already worry about that second contract though. Our DTs either leave (Starr) or become useless (KK, Jenkins).

 

Not me, that's a 2026 problem. 

[Khyber53]

3 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Yep, I like Obada on the inside on passing downs. He seems to be much more effective there than at end. 

Moving Obada inside could make a lot of sense, particularly in passing downs. He's a big guy and I can't remember which team did it a few years back but they completely converted one of their DEs to DT full time. It might have been the Giants when they had a murderer's row of DEs back in the Superb Owl days.