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The Cardinals are a truly miserable franchise.

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1 hour ago, Moo Daeng said:

We do have the best winning percentage in our division. If you really concentrate on your sulking they might win a SB

The truth really is the Panthers have been pretty successful for an expansion franchise. Compared to a lot of other franchises first 25 years and it really isn’t all that bad. 

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6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Given the state of our franchise the past few years, I'm not really in the mood to talk poo about another team. They look better setup for the present and near future and that's really all that matters. You can't change the past and ringless franchises can't really hang their hats on the past anyway.

given the growth we’ve seen over just three games, and the ability of the staff to adjust from game to game and on the fly, we look pretty well set up for the near future too.

the past doesn’t matter, right? 

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2 hours ago, hepcat said:

The truth really is the Panthers have been pretty successful for an expansion franchise. Compared to a lot of other franchises first 25 years and it really isn’t all that bad. 

Was thinking about this the other day. Baltimore has more wins but we have the same super bowl appearances. They have just capitalized on theirs :/

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3 hours ago, Rags said:

I think both Murray and Kliff are overrated. I'll eat crow if I'm wrong but I absolutely expect the Cards to underwhelm. 

 

Per my friend who is a big Cardinals fan, he says if Hopkins is out the game is very much a tossup, with CMC also out. I see at least 2 Cardinals turnovers happening on Sunday.

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1 hour ago, hepcat said:

Per my friend who is a big Cardinals fan, he says if Hopkins is out the game is very much a tossup, with CMC also out. I see at least 2 Cardinals turnovers happening on Sunday.

Oh I just meant in general.

Kyler is a very good scrambler and tbh I kind of expect that to give us fits.

But I do think it'll be a tossup. I think the Cards Defense is about on par with ours. If Ian can have a break out game, it can definitely be here.

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18 hours ago, electro's horse said:

the bidwells should be forced to sell

them, paul brown, and dean spanos should all be told to eat poo

will never happen. the competent owners of other teams want those guys around forever.

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13 hours ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Was thinking about this the other day. Baltimore has more wins but we have the same super bowl appearances. They have just capitalized on theirs :/

But at least they get to enjoy consistent playoff appearances and success, even if they do come up short of the SB

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2 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

Baltimore wasn't an expansion team. They are the Browns.

Right, you have to count the current Browns as an expansion team and the Ravens are a team that moved, despite the histories of the teams being separated. The most successful true expansion team might even be the Panthers. It definitely says way more about the Panthers to be able to make it to a Superbowl within their 9th season. 

The Dolphins were an AFL expansion team and successful early in their existence so maybe they count too but the league was smaller back then too. Most expansion teams take 30 years to really be successful, and some are still struggling.

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