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Official Panthers at Vikings Gameday Thread


Jeremy Igo

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Just now, OldhamA said:

We get murdered by the better teams in the league.

Admittedly they've expanded the Playoffs, so they're not quite as elite as usual - but yeah we're nowhere near that quality. 

Two ways of looking at it. We get in we lose and we drop a rung in the draft.  But the young guys will be inspired.  Momentum builder.  Perhaps...

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

The coaching staff might not agree with you.

My thing with Moore this year is that they seem to be using him more downfield. Rivera and Turner tended to get the ball to him short and let him run with it.

This is one of the few times when I'd say prior coaching might have had a better idea than our current coaches do.

If you use him short, what do you do with your other guys that are capable of filling the short role but incapable of filling the downfield role?

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

The coaching staff might not agree with you.

My thing with Moore this year is that they seem to be using him more downfield. Rivera and Turner tended to get the ball to him short and let him run with it.

This is one of the few times when I'd say prior coaching might have had a better idea than our current coaches do.

He's been open a ton deep. We just don't have the QB to take advantage of it. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The coaching staff might not agree with you.

My thing with Moore this year is that they seem to be using him more downfield. Rivera and Turner tended to get the ball to him short and let him run with it.

This is one of the few times when I'd say prior coaching might have had a better idea than our current coaches do.

Disagree, largely based off of how open he gets and his performance in other games. More saying that DJ can be used all-around the field and pretty clearly appears Teddy-limited. 

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