Ahhh, some unbiased perspective...

[d-dave]

2 hours ago, Kentucky Panther said:

He owes it to us to not check the ball down on 4th and 8. Or lead us on ONE game winning drive. Or throw the ball down down the field. 
 

He’s had every opportunity to earn being a starter here and he’s squandered them. 

I had the same darn thought.  I'd rather him have given a guy a chance to make a play on the ball instead of just checking down for a 1 yard pass play.

Teddy is a cool dude, good guy, but he's not a franchise QB.  He can be a great manager on a team with a dominate D and Run game.  When he can sit back and hit guys on play action, he's really good.  Brady's scheme allowed him to do that, but once teams realized that Teddy wasn't going to push the ball deep, they decided to just take their chances on the long balls and play shallow, where Teddy is going to throw 95% of the time.

But when asked to make the plays at the end of the game, we've seen nothing to show that he's going to develop into that kind of QB for us.  I hate it because I love the dude, but the play leaves much to be desired.  

Draft a QB this spring, let them sit and learn for a year, then see ya Teddy.  While that 2nd year is tough, we set ourselves up for another high pick.  Then 2022, that new QB comes out with some learning, and a better team around them.

[Captroop]

To be fair to Teddy, he's really been asked to do more with less and less every week.

• He's missing his number 1 WR.
• He has no TE, which is something Cam could count on every game.
• We lost the most dynamic offensive player in the league for almost the entire season.
• His protection is mediocre at its best.
• He's a new QB in the first year of a new regime, and a new offensive scheme, and had no preseason or much of a training camp to get up to speed.

Have we gotten a look at Teddy when he's had the tools around him to find out if he's a quality player? No. Honestly we haven't. I wouldn't expect any QB in this league to succeed placed in the same situation.

All that said, I'm not about to fall into the "just give him one more year" line of thinking. That way madness lies.

We haven't given him the tools to show he's a star. It's not fair. But the league isn't fair, and you're never going to have perfection, so you shouldn't count on it. What we have given him the tools enough to see is if he's the future. And he's not. He's a technically proficient, very intelligent game manager. He's a really nice, very well respected guy. But he's not a fighter. He's the guy who'll sit on the opponents' sideline to chat with his old teammates on a game winning/losing drive. He's a guy that will check down a 2 yard pass on 4th and 8.

You don't need to have the perfect team around him to see that.

[J.B.]

9 hours ago, KillerKat said:

We've also had much worse olines over the past 10 years than this year. If you compare them, this line is probably one of the better ones we've had this past decade. Which isn't saying much, but still. Teddy has had many opportunities to make bigger and better plays and just hasn't. It's not the line's fault.

Are we sure about that?

an argument can be made that Teddy has become checkdown Charlie because he hasn’t had time to hold the ball. Him releasing early - while frustrating fans who want to push the ball down field more - makes the line stats look better.

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, KillerKat said:

re-read what I said. "Among one of the better ones" we've had. There are a few better lines we've had since 2011, but they aren't one of the worst lines we've had. Like I said, there's multiple times per game Teddy has time to make something happen but just hasn't. Every week people point how many many times he's missed wide open receivers.

There's multiple times per game when Bridgewater would have been sacked had he not gotten rid of the ball quickly. His quick release makes the line look a lot better in the stats than they actually are.

This line is awful.

[jdr6000]

Well said J.B. and Scott

[trueblade]

1 hour ago, Captroop said:

To be fair to Teddy, he's really been asked to do more with less and less every week.

• He's a new QB in the first year of a new regime, and a new offensive scheme, and had no preseason or much of a training camp to get up to speed.

 

Bridgewater was picked, in large part, for his familiarity with said regime and said offensive scheme. (Brady's time with him in New Orleans). This was supposed to be an asset for him.

[Snake]

There is only so many weapons you can surrounded a guy with until you realize he's not your guy. *cough* Winston *cough* Bucs *cough*

[onmyown]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

There's multiple times per game when Bridgewater would have been sacked had he not gotten rid of the ball quickly. His quick release makes the line look a lot better in the stats than they actually are.

This line is awful.

I posted in another thread why the oline rankings don’t look bad. But to summarize, Okung and Moton inflate it. So does TBs quick release (4th in nfl or something like that), also the oline plays well in most games this year for the first half of the game and then disappear when the game is on the line the second half. Statistics won’t tell you this. If TB is check down king and can’t close out games (which he is) the oline is even worse for not being able to do these things either.

This oline would ranks in the bottom of the NFL with a QB like Cam.

Not to mention Okung and Moton as of now won’t even be here next year. That leads us literally with Paradis lol.

It’s strange people can rightfully rip TBs statistics apart but don’t see the same thing happening on the oline.

Oline is the biggest need, period, from all angles. But since we have such a high pick with a lot of potentially good QBs in the top of the draft, it’s smarter to get one. Doesn’t change the fact oline is the biggest need. 

[PootieNunu]

Is this guy serious? Teddy does not have much help?

I know the OL is poo, but we have plenty of weapons for a QB with a real NFL arm to work with. We could have all pros at all the skill positions, not gonna do poo when your scared to throw the ball more than 5 yards.

[parker]

3 hours ago, stbugs said:

I’d argue it’s our more talented top 3 ever.

You'd take these three over Smith, Muhammed and Proehl?

[DeAngelo Beason]

13 hours ago, jdr6000 said:

https://www.espn.com/blog/carolina-panthers/post/_/id/34516/its-tough-for-panthers-to-judge-teddy-bridgewater-without-much-help
 

Read the article...makes a lot of sense. This is true: “The Panthers owe it to him in the offseason to get McCaffrey healthy, sign or draft a big-time tight end and solidify the left tackle spot in free agency or the draft.”

 

No.  Just no.  

And for the record, I was on the Teddy train early this year.  He's not a starter.  He's a solid backup.