Rhule better make the playoffs next season

[hepcat]

8 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

Right but wasn’t that always the plan? To have a young QB sit behind Bridgewater either this year or next? Then hopefully start becoming competitive 2022 or 2023?

Obviously the plan wasn’t for Bridgewater to regress into absolute dog sh!t the second half of the season but yah

Maybe that is/was the plan, but maybe it wasn’t. Since Hurney got fired, I think it’s reasonable to assume he really was the one who pounded the table for Bridgewater, not Joe Brady, and paid him that big contract. Maybe his connection to Joe Brady was just icing on the cake.

Hurney did also say they would have picked Justin Herbert if he was there too so, who really knows. Just speculation. 

[Moo Daeng]

I always hope we make the playoffs but the Bills took 3 years under McDermott and everyone thinks he's the poo now. If we have the same trajectory as the Bills but it takes another year I'm fine with it. Rhule isn't going away anytime soon but a one year rebuild doesn't seem realistic or expected by anyone who matters in this process. 

 

[saX man]

I'm kinda surprised at how many are still all bent out of shape over beating WFT/Rivera.

It is what it is lol

[saX man]

10 hours ago, Mage said:

Man, I don't mean this with any disrespect towards any of you but there's been WAY too much complaining about falling out of the #3 slot.

Would it have been nice to pick that high?  Yes.  But is it going to make a huge difference in whether this team turns out to be good in the long-term or not (which is the reason we brought Rhule in the first place - to establish a consistent, winning franchise)?  No, it will not.  

Yes, you want to pick that one great player.  But that one great player isn't what makes great franchises.  It is great organizations who can bring in great players.  

What have the Lions done with Matt Stafford, who would easily have been a much better prospect than anyone in this draft outside of Lawrence?  How long did it take the Browns to finally have success despite a litany of high picks?  The Texans have Deshaun Watson, one of the biggest game breakers in the league, and yet they finished 4-12.  Another guy who is likely going to be a superior QB to anyone we could grab at #3, and yet the team is bad.  Why?  Because the front office and coaching failed to build a team.

We are fans of a team who took Cam Newton #1, and failed to build a consistent winner behind him.  0 back-to-back winning seasons in his tenure here.  We even secured a HOFer in Luke Kuechly the next year.  Again, a player who odds are will be better than who we take at #3 (because odds are never that you are going to draft a HOFer).  And still not a consistent winner.

The doom-and-gloom from some of you needs to stop.  Yes, Matt Rhule and co. have more to prove.  But the early results have been very promising.  Stop letting Bridgewater's poor performance blind you from the fact that this was an EXTREMELY competitive team despite tough competition, including great outings against the Packers, Chiefs, and Saints (in the first game).  Our rookies were outstanding.  Almost every player on the team showed improvement outside of a select few (Greg Little, Teddy B).  Hell, even Tre Boston started coming on strong by season's end.  This team greatly out-performed its talent-level.  This was far more than any reasonable fan should have expected.

Just be patient.  Let the team grow.  And stop freaking out about not picking at #3.  It isn't nearly as important as some of you seem to think it is.  Great QBs, especially nowadays, can come from anywhere in the first and second round.  Trust me, whether this run with Rhule succeeds or not is not going to come down to whether we picked #3 or whatever in 2021.  

This should be a thread. Respect

[PghPanther]

At best 7-9 probably same results as this year.................another year of Bridge over troubled waters behind center?...................and CMC is going to eventually retire early in his career from injuries and head issues unless he decides to kick FGs.......

........he will be injured again in 2021 and spend more time on the bench than playing..............he's far too small and overused to work in the role in the backfield these days and remember speed is the first thing to go after injuries (Cam anyone?).

Nope I don't see this franchise doing anything as long as they fill up the Oline with late draft picks while trying to set up the skill player positions. 

 

[chknwing]

11 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Between the decision to sign Teddy, which regardless of contract length, is one of the worst dollar-for-dollar signings in the history of our franchise, and then his decision to be a fuging tryhard and beat a completely unprepared, limpdicked WSH team and drop us from 3 to 8 in the draft for no fuging reason...  he's on a very short leash for me.  I don't want to hear poo about a winning culture.  Winning culture isn't winning a 5th game in the 16th week of a 17 week season...  you can save that poo.

Bottom line, you better fuging hit on #8 with a Pat Mahomes-like impact, or you can count your fuging days as coach here.

lets not for get that not only does carolina pick 8th in the first round, but in all the rounds to follow.  man picking 3/4 in those rounds could have been nice.

[Wanderlai]

[AceBoogie]

6 minutes ago, bull123 said:

i would not call cam's season better...actually it was a total failure...the only two games he played anywhere near decent were against the jets...and he almost lost one of those

That’s not even remotely close to being true for anyone who has watched every Patriots game this season. He started the season pretty damn well then he got Covid and lost his best WR. 
 

Another stat espn won’t show you:
2019: Tom Brady had 27 total TDs in 16 games 
2020: Cam Newton had 22 total TDs in 14 games with no offseason and catching Covid with less weapons than Tom had in 2019 

Teddy: 20 total TDs in 15 games. 

But yea context doesn’t matter right?

[saX man]

Just now, AceBoogie said:

That’s not even remotely close to being true for anyone who has watched every Patriots game this season. He started the season pretty damn well then he got Covid and lost his best WR. 
 

Another stat espn won’t show you:
2019: Tom Brady had 27 total TDs in 16 games 
2020: Cam Newton had 22 total TDs in 14 games with no offseason and catching Covid with less weapons than Tom had in 2019 

Teddy: 20 total TDs in 15 games. 

But yea context doesn’t matter right?

I get you’re a Cam fan (and he was great for a time here, near HOF level) but both Bridgewater and Cam sucked this year. Do we really need to discuss who sucked more? How many 12 yard throws into the dirt does he need to make to show he’s done?

[MasterAwesome]

47 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

That’s not even remotely close to being true for anyone who has watched every Patriots game this season. He started the season pretty damn well then he got Covid and lost his best WR. 
 

Another stat espn won’t show you:
2019: Tom Brady had 27 total TDs in 16 games 
2020: Cam Newton had 22 total TDs in 14 games with no offseason and catching Covid with less weapons than Tom had in 2019 

Teddy: 20 total TDs in 15 games. 

But yea context doesn’t matter right?

That was a performance that ultimately got Brady let go from the Patriots...did anyone try to say he had a great season or something?  I don't understand what you're trying to suggest with that comparison.  They don't appear to want to re-sign Cam this offseason either, so they seem to be applying consistent standards in what they expect from their QB.

Weren't you the one who started a thread about halfway through the season saying Cam was done and the Panthers were right to let him go?  You believed in Cam...then you didn't...now you believe in him again....?  What changed?  His weapons sure didn't.  Either you're incredibly reactionary/impressionable, or you're allowing your opinion of Teddy to skew your evaluation of Cam.  Seems like there's a direct correlation between your hatred for Teddy and your inflation of Cam's performance this season.  As others have pointed out, they were both bad and neither was/is the answer here.  You can evaluate each QB on their own merits without tying them to one another.

[*FreeFua*]

48 minutes ago, saX man said:

I get you’re a Cam fan (and he was great for a time here, near HOF level) but both Bridgewater and Cam sucked this year. Do we really need to discuss who sucked more? How many 12 yard throws into the dirt does he need to make to show he’s done?

This.

[Mage]

5 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

 Ron is heading to the playoffs

Dude, WFT barely beat an Eagles team that wasn't even trying.

Panthers EASILY make the playoffs in the NFC East.  

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

Be prepared for this team to not win poo next year.

[Daddy_Uncle]

13 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

If we don’t get a franchise qb I expect us to finish around the same record

You expect a rookie qb to make that much difference year 1?