Remote learning has been a failure per CMS

[Ja Rhule]

Data reported by CMS Legal Service Administration.  Data includes 83k students grades 3-12.
 

 

Also, on top of that... NC lost over 15,000 students.  They don’t know whereabouts of these students or if they are ok or not.

https://www.ednc.org/2020-12-01-nc-students-missing-days-virtual-learning-covid-pandemic/

Edited January 18, 2021 by Ja Rhule

[Zod]

Of course it has, it was always destined to fail. 

But that doesn't mean it wasn't necessary. 

[cardiackat88.]

Even worse,  

There are articles about children's mothers walking around in the background with nothing but a towel on their head, men drinking beer shirtless in camera focus at 9am, and many siblings cussing out teachers for no real reason.

[Ja Rhule]

7 hours ago, cardiackat88. said:

Even worse,  

There are articles about children's mothers walking around in the background with nothing but a towel on their head, men drinking beer shirtless in camera focus at 9am, and many siblings cussing out teachers for no real reason.

My wife was helping my son get on zoom like 2 months ago and another kid mom was nude trying to get her daughter zoom to work... it was working and everyone could see her titties dangling in the camera for like 2 minutes until teacher ended the class.

[Whatev]

So sad.  Further divide between haves and have nots. I support Greg Olsen’s position.  

[cookinwithgas]

It's more about parents than kids, but there are kids that will take advantage of the situation in ways they could not if they had to be in class.

But it's a pandemic. It's serious. And we are fortunate that this alternative exists in 2020, otherwise there would be NO education.

[Anybodyhome]

The failure is the result of a pandemic.  The failure is not due to remote learning, it's due to the pandemic.

That's like saying the restaurant industry is a failure, the movie theater business, travel & tourism....

[4Corners]

On 1/18/2021 at 8:07 AM, Ja Rhule said:

Data reported by CMS Legal Service Administration.  Data includes 83k students grades 3-12.
 

 

Also, on top of that... NC lost over 15,000 students.  They don’t know whereabouts of these students or if they are ok or not.

https://www.ednc.org/2020-12-01-nc-students-missing-days-virtual-learning-covid-pandemic/

It’s tough on everyone. My wife is a teacher. It’s really hard on these kids especially the ones who have been dealt a tough hand. We need to get back to in school learning when it’s safe. It’s not safe right now. It’s just the way it has to be. 

[4Corners]

4 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:

The failure is the result of a pandemic.  The failure is not due to remote learning, it's due to the pandemic.

That's like saying the restaurant industry is a failure, the movie theater business, travel & tourism....

True dat

Painfully obvious nobody was prepared to deal with anything like this

[CarolinaNCSU]

Rants of a teacher ahead, but the charts in the OP aren't telling much of the story if we're only looking at grades.  On top of that, let's also be real...a lot of grades are meaningless and are more about compliance than actual standards mastery.  My school for instance, has weirdly (to us as well) seen increases in some testing data this year. Some students grades have gone up. And obviously, some kids are completely MIA. 

Remote learning was always impossible, but shined light on and amplified the issues that were already present.  Lack of funding, lack of resources, half-assing 100 things instead of making the important stuff great, lack of parents giving a poo, etc.  At least in my district, the last time teachers were surveyed or our opinions were asked for was back in September.  Decisions have been made by the BOE and county admin that don't make a bit of sense in a classroom setting.  Teachers obviously aren't innocent here either, as I've seen a couple from my team that are checked out.  

It wouldn't solve all of the issues, but the "main" issue in the OP concerning grades could've easily been better dealt with if parents took 5 minutes to check PowerSchool. Instead, they believe their kid, don't pay attention to messages from the teachers or progress reports, and then are shocked to find out their kid failed not because of their abilities, but their irresponsibility and lack of turning in assignments. Some faults on districts here as well.  Instead of making a cool viral rap video about wearing a mask...make a 2 minute tutorial showing parents how to check grades. Schools make it damn near impossible to fail anything in the regular setting.  During remote learning? To fail currently, you literally don't show up for 5-8 weeks, never turn in an assignment (that don't have due dates), and essentially avoid all contact from teachers/admin/counselors/resource officers. 

[Anybodyhome]

11 hours ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

Rants of a teacher ahead, but the charts in the OP aren't telling much of the story if we're only looking at grades.  On top of that, let's also be real...a lot of grades are meaningless and are more about compliance than actual standards mastery.  My school for instance, has weirdly (to us as well) seen increases in some testing data this year. Some students grades have gone up. And obviously, some kids are completely MIA. 

Remote learning was always impossible, but shined light on and amplified the issues that were already present.  Lack of funding, lack of resources, half-assing 100 things instead of making the important stuff great, lack of parents giving a poo, etc.  At least in my district, the last time teachers were surveyed or our opinions were asked for was back in September.  Decisions have been made by the BOE and county admin that don't make a bit of sense in a classroom setting.  Teachers obviously aren't innocent here either, as I've seen a couple from my team that are checked out.  

It wouldn't solve all of the issues, but the "main" issue in the OP concerning grades could've easily been better dealt with if parents took 5 minutes to check PowerSchool. Instead, they believe their kid, don't pay attention to messages from the teachers or progress reports, and then are shocked to find out their kid failed not because of their abilities, but their irresponsibility and lack of turning in assignments. Some faults on districts here as well.  Instead of making a cool viral rap video about wearing a mask...make a 2 minute tutorial showing parents how to check grades. Schools make it damn near impossible to fail anything in the regular setting.  During remote learning? To fail currently, you literally don't show up for 5-8 weeks, never turn in an assignment (that don't have due dates), and essentially avoid all contact from teachers/admin/counselors/resource officers. 

How much do you think the situation you're dealing with varies from one county to another, given each has their own BOE, and the BOE has their own agenda? 

[CarolinaNCSU]

9 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:

How much do you think the situation you're dealing with varies from one county to another, given each has their own BOE, and the BOE has their own agenda? 

Completely dependent on the BOE and why there's so much variance based on your district right now.  I have some neighboring counties that are already remote all year, some that have been Plan A already, it's all just a grab bag depending on your BOE.  And from that, the BOE members themselves took a drastic turn following elections.  Once many of them were re-elected, a few did complete 180s on previous stances.  It's never been about the kids, because frankly county decision makers and BOE's don't know dick about the kids or what schools are actually like. 

[Whatev]

Las Vegas/Clark County reinstating in person due to mental health of students and spike in suicide rate.  
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/us/politics/student-suicides-nevada-coronavirus.html

[Cookie Lyon]

It seems like every other day on the local news in my area, parents are complaining about remote learning. The majority of the complaints are nonsensical. They usually turn into trying to guilt the teachers to basically risk their lives for in-person learning with no plan in sight of when teachers and staff will be vaccinated. It just seems like most school districts are in a rush to bring everyone back in-person because they think the teachers are "getting off easy" with remote learning when that's not the case at all.

Yes, there are some slack teachers out there, but the majority of teachers are actually working hard and trying to make a difference in these students lives. My boyfriend, who is a teacher, isn't a fan of remote learning, but he tries his best to make sure his students are actually learning.

Hopefully, everyone can be vaccinated as soon as possible and things can get back to normal.