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Mr. Scot

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55 minutes ago, Bama Panther said:

Wasn’t JT Daniels still recovering from a knee injury? I seem to recall that he had to have a clean up procedure sometime in the summer/fall timeframe. I think that’s the only reason it took him so long to get the start. 

Yeah he was injured. Newman would have been the starter. Smart knows if you bench high profile players that transfer, it can be bad for future transfers.

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For those wondering about Goff and the Lions' attitude about grabbing another QB right away, there is this article.

https://lionswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/31/trading-for-jared-goff-gives-the-lions-a-starter-level-qb-and-a-potential-bridge-to-the-future/

"At just 26 years of age, the door isn’t shut on Goff revitalizing his career with the Lions — it’s happened before, look no further than Ryan Tannehill and the Titans — but he has shown that when he feels pressure in the pocket, he struggles to produce and that’s a significant concern.

Can the Lions get him enough pass protection? Can QB coach Mark Brunell use his 19 years of NFL quarterbacking experience to teach him how to handle the pressure? Those will surely be questions at the forefront of the Lions coaching staff this offseason."

Because of this, adding a quarterback with the No. 7 pick in the NFL draft is still very much in play.

With four quarterbacks capable of being selected at the top of this draft, the Lions will be in a position to get value for their pick. If there is a large gap between the Lions’ quarterback rankings, they now have enough draft capital to trade up to get their guy if they need to.

If the Lions do select a quarterback in this draft class, Goff is the perfect bridge quarterback for Detroit, as they won’t feel the need to force the rookie into action early and can give him time to develop."

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OK, If I am the GM in Detroit, here is how I approach this:  We have a former NFL star QB who thinks he can save Goff.  Goff is 26--seven years younger than Stafford---and has demonstrated that he can play if protected.  Drafting a QB in round 1 before they know what they can do with Goff is probably overkill.  I think they Lions will draft an OL (Sewell) or a WR (Chase, Devanta Smith).  They could trade back, and they could double down and take a QB early, but if he needs protection, I just see the Lions building a line and giving him weapons.

 

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14 hours ago, stbugs said:

Broke his hand so Flores sidelined him. There was a tweet from Shefter that he was begging to play. I’d take him just on his practice tape over anyone on our squad.

I would also remind Panther fans of the success we have had in the past picking small school OL---Silatolu?  Kugbila?  He could be a great kid with a great motor, but...proceed with caution.

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

OK, If I am the GM in Detroit, here is how I approach this:  We have a former NFL star QB who thinks he can save Goff.  Goff is 26--seven years younger than Stafford---and has demonstrated that he can play if protected.  Drafting a QB in round 1 before they know what they can do with Goff is probably overkill.  I think they Lions will draft an OL (Sewell) or a WR (Chase, Devanta Smith).  They could trade back, and they could double down and take a QB early, but if he needs protection, I just see the Lions building a line and giving him weapons.

Gotta remember the GM in Detroit is the guy who pushed the Rams to do whatever it took to get Goff back in 2016.

Didn't see the Lions article mentioning that even while discussing Holmes, but then USA today has some really crappy team writers.

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Gotta remember the GM in Detroit is the guy who pushed the Rams to do whatever it took to get Goff back in 2016.

Didn't see the Lions article mentioning that even while discussing Holmes, but then USA today has some really crappy team writers.

I just do not know if this was a condition for giving LA the cap room needed so the trade can go down or if they really want him....If we got him, I think we'd give him a season (at age 26) especially if we had Brunell. I personally think system and supporting talent, defense, etc. make a difference. 

Even if you dump Stafford's salary, accepting Goff's deal for a backup QB is not exactly strategic-

 

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