Kiper Mock 2.0: Mac Jones to Panthers at #8.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

If Jones doesn't inspire the confidence to sit Teddy, then there is absolutely no reason to even select him. Jones is a prospect that isn't likely to get much better. Classic low ceiling, low floor player. 

I just prefer he get a more gradual introduction to playing in the NFL, though I generally feel that way about most rookies.

For example, we could have him come off the bench and finish out the fourth quarter in games where we're winning in a blowout.

 

 

 

 

Part of the fun of the internet is that you have no idea whether I'm wearing a straight face right now

[CMAC22]

NOOOOOOO to Mac Whitewater Jones!

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, mickeye76 said:

If we use a top 10 pick on Jones and only give him a year to figure it out I would consider that a wasted pick.

Well taking him in the top 10 would be a wasted pick anyway but hypothetically if you didn't believe that then I will say that with the rookie contracts being what they are, it is a lot easier to move on in recent years.

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I just prefer he get a more gradual introduction to playing in the NFL, though I generally feel that way about most rookies.

For example, we could have him come off the bench and finish out the fourth quarter in games where we're winning in a blowout.

Part of the fun of the internet is that you have no idea whether I'm wearing a straight face right now

He isn't supposed to be a guy that needs much of an introduction. If you don't believe him him being a heady player and throwing with anticipation, etc, etc......then what in the world is the draw? 

[Mr. Scot]

34 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He isn't supposed to be a guy that needs much of an introduction. If you don't believe him him being a heady player and throwing with anticipation, etc, etc......then what in the world is the draw? 

It's just my philosophy.

Remember, Patrick Mahomes sat his rookie season.

[ImaginaryKev]

He feels like a great backup in the league

[mickeye76]

1 hour ago, ImaginaryKev said:

He feels like a great backup in the league

Ya don't take great backups in the top ten.   I'm just not a fan that early.  Yeah, top of the second or something sure.  In my opinion all the qbs stock are grossly inflated.  Trevor is legit.  After that they all have question marks.  They all are more like 2nd round guys when compared to lots of non-qb guys.  

[ImaginaryKev]

I think the top four are all at least as good as Baker Mayfield or better then everyone else is a good backup prospect. Like Jamie Newman and Kyle Trask seem like two great backups. 

[Agent Blue]

give me a QB with great IQ and accuracy with less than stellar athleticism and arm strength over a QB with great athleticism and arm strength with less than stellar IQ and accuracy. 

[SOJA]

A small child got cancer from this mock 

[ForJimmy]

The only QB that might be “ready” week one is Lawrence. He has multiple year experience in a pro style offense against elite talent and the skill set to extend a play if it breaks down. All the rest should sit at least part of the season...

[Pup McBarky]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

The only QB that might be “ready” week one is Lawrence. He has multiple year experience in a pro style offense against elite talent and the skill set to extend a play if it breaks down. All the rest should sit at least part of the season...

I agree with this. Even then, Lawrence will take his lumps. Like Manning, he'll have to adjust to the speed of the game and those windows he used to have will get a fraction of their size. 

[d-dave]

Since Kiper said it, we don't have to worry about it!  How often has Kiper been horrifically wrong on our picks specifically?

I get that he looks like a classic back up type, 15 years of clipboard holding and spot duty kind of guy.  Rhule liked him, said he was an alpha.  He's not the most physically gifted, threw to the best athletes in the world who were wide open, and comes from a school with a poor QB track record.

I mean, if the Panthers think that...ok, then let's hope he's our guy.  While it's fun to talk up and down the draft right now, it's really up to the guys in the FO to figure out how to make our team.

[ncfan]

This was nothing more than a ploy to have him get the Patriots Trey Lance.

 

They had a SC Kiper Mock special yesterday evening including Kiper, some ESPN analyst, and Jim Nagy from the Senior bowl.

 

The Mac Jones pick.

 

After spending several minutes per pick talking about each player.

At our Pick, they announced it and immediately stated "we'll get back to the Mac Pick".  Then went on to announce the Patriots trade and pick all giddy.

 

They then went on to talk about the 2 picks.  The only thing they had to say about the Panthers was Rhule coaching Jones.  They then continued to defend Jones stating "its not just about tools in the NFL".  "Mac is a smart player." Etc etc.

 

Then they immediately went on to the Lance pick.  Their tone and volume and voice grew Super excited.  They pulled a 180 talking about how good Lance's "tools" are, not 90 seconds after telling everyone that the "tools didnt matter".  One Analyst called Lance a "Freak" and 2 others said Lance is the better player.