Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Panthers Free Agent Signings Thread


Ricky Spanish
 Share

Recommended Posts

14 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

The Panthers structured the two-year contract of FA OT Cameron Erving to be cap friendly in 2021, counting only $2,240,000 against the cap. It jumps to $7,760,000 in 2022. Suspect OG Pat Elflein's deal will have similar structure. Picking up the $3.55 million in space when S Trey Boston's release becomes official at 4 p.m., Carolina still will have approximately $28 million to $29 million in cap space. Plenty of room to, say, add Deshaun Watson to the roster if the Texans opt to trade him.

 
i?img=%2Fi%2Fcolumnists%2Ffull%2Fnewton_david.png&w=80&h=80&scale=crop
David Newton, ESPN Staff Writer11h ago

Newton knows so little...guess he is what is left at espn

Link to comment
Share on other sites

LOSER: CAROLINA PANTHERS OFFENSIVE LINE

The Panthers entered free agency with three offensive line positions up in the air following their decision to franchise tag right tackle Taylor Moton: left tackle and both guard spots. On the bright side, Carolina has seemingly identified that need. The team’s only two significant free agent additions thus far have been offensive linemen. But those players aren’t ones you should feel comfortable with being potential starters, and it hasn’t been for insignificant money.

Carolina inked Pat Elflein to a three-year, $13.5 million deal with $6 million guaranteed and Cameron Erving to a two-year, $10 million deal with $8 million guaranteed. Those aren’t high-level starter contracts, but they do straddle the line between starter money and high-end backup money.

Now, compare those contracts to these grading profiles. Since 2018, 151 offensive linemen have played at least 1,500 offensive snaps. Erving’s 44.4 PFF grade ranks dead last, and Elflein’s 50.6 PFF grade ranks fifth-worst among that group. The Panthers brought in two of the five lowest-graded offensive linemen in the league to see significant action — on competitive contracts, no less.

Adding depth with multiple low- to mid-level signings rather than aggressively pursuing high-priced free agents isn’t a bad strategy to fill out an offensive line. It’s all about eliminating weaknesses that opposing defenses can exploit. However, a team still needs to ensure that the players it’s bringing in can provide average play up front. Elflein and Erving have failed to do that throughout their careers, and as things stand, both could be thrust into starter roles next season. That’s not an ideal situation for the Panthers’ quarterback in 2021

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-early-2021-nfl-free-agency-winners-losers

  • Flames 2
  • Poo 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

LOSER: CAROLINA PANTHERS OFFENSIVE LINE

The Panthers entered free agency with three offensive line positions up in the air following their decision to franchise tag right tackle Taylor Moton: left tackle and both guard spots. On the bright side, Carolina has seemingly identified that need. The team’s only two significant free agent additions thus far have been offensive linemen. But those players aren’t ones you should feel comfortable with being potential starters, and it hasn’t been for insignificant money.

Carolina inked Pat Elflein to a three-year, $13.5 million deal with $6 million guaranteed and Cameron Erving to a two-year, $10 million deal with $8 million guaranteed. Those aren’t high-level starter contracts, but they do straddle the line between starter money and high-end backup money.

Now, compare those contracts to these grading profiles. Since 2018, 151 offensive linemen have played at least 1,500 offensive snaps. Erving’s 44.4 PFF grade ranks dead last, and Elflein’s 50.6 PFF grade ranks fifth-worst among that group. The Panthers brought in two of the five lowest-graded offensive linemen in the league to see significant action — on competitive contracts, no less.

Adding depth with multiple low- to mid-level signings rather than aggressively pursuing high-priced free agents isn’t a bad strategy to fill out an offensive line. It’s all about eliminating weaknesses that opposing defenses can exploit. However, a team still needs to ensure that the players it’s bringing in can provide average play up front. Elflein and Erving have failed to do that throughout their careers, and as things stand, both could be thrust into starter roles next season. That’s not an ideal situation for the Panthers’ quarterback in 2021

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-early-2021-nfl-free-agency-winners-losers

Yay

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

People who take PFF seriously blow me. Their rankings are for the most part a crapshoot. The OL we signed are rotational/depth pieces that have experience. So of course they will get decent deals. These guys will start if they prove themselves if not whoever we draft or pick up will. This positional group was terrible last year, at least acknowledging the need for depth this soon is a great sign we are investing heavily on offense this year. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, TriggaPlease89 said:

People who take PFF seriously blow me. Their rankings are for the most part a crapshoot. The OL we signed are rotational/depth pieces that have experience. So of course they will get decent deals. These guys will start if they prove themselves if not whoever we draft or pick up will. This positional group was terrible last year, at least acknowledging the need for depth this soon is a great sign we are investing heavily on offense this year. 

I mean, the Riot Report review on Elflein wasn't exactly stellar either.

IMO, they seemed like reaches at the time. We will have to see if they see something that we don't. We know that Whitehead and Weatherly were both examples of big misses from the last offseason. Anderson was a big hit, though. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, the Riot Report review on Elflein wasn't exactly stellar either.

IMO, they seemed like reaches at the time. We will have to see if they see something that we don't. We know that Whitehead and Weatherly were both examples of big misses from the last offseason. Anderson was a big hit, though. 

I am not expecting much from either of the two myself.  Well maybe some special teams play if they are any good at it.  I've learned to temper my expectations with this team.  The cream will rise to the top eventually.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

Free Agent Cornerbacks still available:

Kyle Fuller, Aj Bouye, Malcom Butler, Casey Haward, Brian Poole, Mackenzie Alexander, Kevin King, Adoree Jackson, Quinton Dunbar, Geron Conley and Emmanuel Mosley. 

Lots of talent still out there, but we need to fill the CB position. 

We need a damn TE too, who is left out there?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Article:  The Rams must love rookie defensive lineman Braden Fiske, because they paid the Panthers a fortune to move up in the second round and draft him. To move up from No. 52 to No. 39 and draft Fiske, the Rams gave up the 155th overall pick in this year’s draft, as well as the Rams’ second-round pick in next year’s draft. That’s a rare price to pay, for a move up of just 13 spots in the second round. In fact, according to Seth Walder of ESPN Analytics, the Rams overpaid by the most any team has overpaid to move up on Day Two of the draft in at least the last six years. Ultimately, the Rams used two second-round picks and a fifth-round pick on Fiske. That’s a lot to spend. For the Panthers, it’s a great deal that nets them a second-round pick next year in addition to Jonathon Brooks, the running back the Panthers drafted after making another trade that packaged the two picks they got from the Rams. The Panthers didn’t have a 2025 second-round pick, having shipped it to Chicago in last year’s Bryce Young trade, but now they have a second-round pick after making a good trade on Friday. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/rams-paid-a-big-price-in-trade-with-panthers-to-move-up-13-spots-for-braden-fiske
    • Yeah I don’t think I’d like this guy outside, he doesn’t fit that in the NFL.  I think he needs to stick to nickel and ST to help the defense, he’d probably contribute. I think he’d be a liability outside. I like him okay though, looking forward to seeing him.  Actually that is probably how I feel about all the picks, I like them okay and am looking forward to seeing them. I feel like they were taken for a good reason; though I may not see it yet. One shouldn’t expect to go straight down the line hit every one, butI think we’ll hit on a couple of guys in this group. 4 would be great.  
    • i know, but to a degree to can still apply, imo. yes, the guy is a unicorn. crazy circumstances and situations i think kept him away from opportunity to prove themselves for a longer period of time. and in that he and cam are similar. cam took a couple years before he was put in a situation to show what he could do given then opportunity. same wit XL. different circumstances, for sure, but really they were drafted based on one one year of production where they looked dominant. does that mean he's going to be the cam newton of WRS? probably not.  one of the arguments against cam was that he had only one year of "real" production at a high level and those arguments were furthered by the lack of people who had transitioned into a legit starter after so little starting experience.  they were/are both unicorns. 
×
×
  • Create New...