Go on record. Who still wants Watson?

[Asurfaholic]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, it's not just "being naked". Three different women have accused him of forcing them to perform oral sex.

Also worth remembering that if you expose yourself in areas where you're not supposed to or where it's unwanted, that's enough to get you arrested.

Do you believe that 3/3 women who have accused him of forcing them to perform oral sex on him were all equally unwilling to leave and immediately contact law enforcement? 
 

That just doesn’t add up to me. 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Asurfaholic said:

Do you believe that 3/3 women who have accused him of forcing them to perform oral sex on him were all equally unwilling to leave and immediately contact law enforcement? 

That just doesn’t add up to me. 

We're not really gonna have another one of these "I don't believe women if they don't handle it the way I think they ought to" discussions are we?

Good Lord

[Asurfaholic]

33 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We're not really gonna have another one of these "I don't believe women if they don't handle it the way I think they ought to" discussions are we?

Good Lord

Well, if you don’t want to then that’s your choice. I respect that female victims may not always handle things in the most logically sound manner. It would be very unfair to judge one woman for her handling of a traumatic situation like that. 
 

But it’s also unfair to Watson to ignore that 3 women have accused him of forced oral sex, and all 3 of them basically had the same response- wait. 
 

I don’t know what Watson did, I wasn’t there, but I think it’s fair to question these strange coincidences. You don’t find it at all odd that all 3 of 3 women who were forced to perform oral sex, against their will, didn’t feel so traumatized to report it to some authority immediately? Does questioning this fact make me insensitive? I don’t think that this fact alone would absolve Watson of his patterns of questionable behavior. I think it’s fair to try to determine the credibility of the accusations as a whole. 

Edited April 1, 2021 by Asurfaholic

[Mills]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/attorney-at-center-of-deshaun-watson-litigation-says-he-wont-turn-over-information-to-houston-police-043556867.html
 

Lawyer wont even turn over the evidence to law enforcement.

not saying he’s guilty or innocent, but something is off.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Asurfaholic said:

Well, if you don’t want to then that’s your choice. I respect that female victims may not always handle things in the most logically sound manner. It would be very unfair to judge one woman for her handling of a traumatic situation like that. 

But it’s also unfair to Watson to ignore that 3 women have accused him of forced oral sex, and all 3 of them basically had the same response- wait. 

I don’t know what Watson did, I wasn’t there, but I think it’s fair to question these strange coincidences. You don’t find that at all odd that all 3 of 3 women who were forced to perform oral sex, against their will, didn’t feel so traumatized to report it to some authority immediately? Does questioning this fact make me insensitive? I don’t think that this fact alone would absolve Watson of his patterns of questionable behavior. I think it’s fair to try to determine the credibility of the accusations as a whole. 

I'll tell you the same thing I've told others.

If you know someone who's actually been a victim of something like this, you might understand how difficult it is for women, even in cases where the person in question isn't rich or famous.

Attitudes like "well why didn't you do this like I think you should have" are one of the biggest factors that help make it tougher for victims to get justice.

[Rags]

14 minutes ago, Asurfaholic said:

 

I don’t know what Watson did, I wasn’t there, but I think it’s fair to question these strange coincidences. You don’t find it at all odd that all 3 of 3 women who were forced to perform oral sex, against their will, didn’t feel so traumatized to report it to some authority immediately? 

No.

There's people with 1/1000th of the influence and power Watson holds and their victims are still scared to speak up.

This is a very common thing amongst sexual assault/abuse victims no matter the gender.

That's why these claims usually come out in droves.

Edited April 1, 2021 by Rags

[DamnItJake!]

A therapist looking for a retirement fund

[BurnNChinn]

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Barring a legitimate miracle, that legal process is likely to take about two years.

We're not waiting two years on someone who might not even turn out to be innocent.

Lol two years

[ForJimmy]

[Asurfaholic]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'll tell you the same thing I've told others.

If you know someone who's actually been a victim of something like this, you might understand how difficult it is for women, even in cases where the person in question isn't rich or famous.

Attitudes like "well why didn't you do this like I think you should have" are one of the biggest factors that help make it tougher for victims to get justice.

I do know someone very personally who was sexually abused. She went right to her loved ones, and they took it straight to the police. So don’t assume I have no place to speak. 
 

you are assuming the allegations are truthful. I prefer assume that they may or may not be. 
 

You are also speaking logically from the standpoint of a singular victims response mechanism. I think it’s unwise to ignore the greater pattern. 
 

I have not read of a single incident where Watson had threatened one of his alleged victims. You may be more versed in each allegation, so I invite you to correct me if there were threats involved, which would play a huge factor. The presence of a threat or the absence of one would not be the end all to explain the reason most stayed silent, but that would certainly go a long way to explain it. 
 

Is it fair to say it’s possible that maybe some sexual contact did happen, and when one accusation came out, others saw that they had an opportunity to jump on the money train? Is it possible each allegation was coached by the one constant in all of them- the sleazy attorney?

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Asurfaholic said:

I do know someone very personally who was sexually abused. She went right to her loved ones, and they took it straight to the police. So don’t assume I have no place to speak. 

you are assuming the allegations are truthful. I prefer assume that they may or may not be. 
 

You are also speaking logically from the standpoint of a singular victims response mechanism. I think it’s unwise to ignore the greater pattern. 
 

I have not read of a single incident where Watson had threatened one of his alleged victims. You may be more versed in each allegation, so I invite you to correct me if there were threats involved, which would play a huge factor. The presence of a threat or the absence of one would not be the end all to explain the reason most stayed silent, but that would certainly go a long way to explain it. 
 

Is it fair to say it’s possible that maybe some sexual contact did happen, and when one accusation came out, others saw that they had an opportunity to jump on the money train? Is it possible each allegation was coached by the one constant in all of them- the sleazy attorney?

You know someone. Cool.

Many of us on here know several who, for varying reasons, did not go to police. In fact, the majority of women don't. 

As to the accusers, many of them also reported the stories to friends and loved ones. That includes the SI accuser whose story was checked out by the reporter who wrote it.

All have said they feared reprisal, and some reported that Watson made veiled (or not so veiled) threats. If you aren't aware of this, like you weren't aware of other details, I'm guessing you haven't read the cases.

You're apparently also unaware that not all of the cases are represented by the same lawyer. The SI accuser has different counsel.

Bottom Line: The whole "bunch of b-tches looking for money" rationalization is pretty embarrassing, and again a big reason why a lot of women don't come forward in cases like this.

[Agent Blue]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

You know someone. Cool.

Many of us on here know several who, for varying reasons, did not go to police. In fact, the majority of women don't. 

As to the accusers, many of them also reported the stories to friends and loved ones. That includes the SI accuser whose story was checked out by the reporter who wrote it.

All have said they feared reprisal, and some reported that Watson made veiled (or not so veiled) threats. If you aren't aware of this, like you weren't aware of other details, I'm guessing you haven't read the cases.

You're apparently also unaware that not all of the cases are represented by the same lawyer. The SI accuser has different counsel.

Bottom Line: The whole "bunch of b-tches looking for money" rationalization is pretty embarrassing, and again a big reason why a lot of women don't come forward in cases like this.

Is it possible DW sexually harassed and or assaulted all the women? Yes

Is it possible DW sexually harassed and or assaulted some of the women? Yes

Is it possible all the women are lying and or exaggerating the story looking for a payday? Yes

Right now, no one knows for sure what actually happened except DW and the women making these claims. 

 

Edited April 1, 2021 by Agent Blue

[Asurfaholic]

2 hours ago, Agent Blue said:

Is it possible DW sexually harassed and or assaulted all the women? Yes

Is it possible DW sexually harassed and or assaulted some of the women? Yes

Is it possible all the women are lying and or exaggerating the story looking for a payday? Yes

Right now, no one knows for sure what actually happened except DW and the women making these claims. 

 

This is exactly my point. I’m just pointing things that seem strange to me. 
 

For all my latest focus on the lack of an actual police report, I also find it odd that Watson has the ire of so many women. Patterns of behavior are telling. 1 accuser with no substance for evidence is one thing. 30 is entirely another. Watson could be very good at grooming the possible victims to accept his behavior.

[Doc Holiday]

9 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

We're not really gonna have another one of these "I don't believe women if they don't handle it the way I think they ought to" discussions are we?

Good Lord

Really... that’s sad