Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Business Culture

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

Scott12345 Grand Master

Scott12345

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

So a reporter asked Matt Rhule today if he thought it would be fair to ask Teddy Bridgewater to mentor Sam Darnold.

Rhule's response?

"I don't really believe in fair or unfair in professional sports."

Loosely translated: "I don't give a sh-t."

 

Ron Rivera always wanted to help be sure players ended their careers on their best terms. Matt Rhule doesn't really seem to be especially worried about that. He appears to be more of a "do whatever it takes to win" guy.

I'm curious which approach fans are more comfortable with.

What a breath of fresh air coach Rhule is

pro athletes get paid multi millions...perform as we need you to or you are gone....just love it

  • Pie 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites
CanadianCat Veteran

CanadianCat

Posted
Posted

I dont think its as simple as some on here are making it sound. 

Some back up QB's (Anderson for example) have extended their careers because of their willingness to do this.. some choose not to.

Really the choice is up to Teddy. Teddy will have to decide if he thinks he can be QB1 or if he wasn't to reside as a high-end back up option. 

If he thinks he can be QB1 then I expect he will use every advantage he has to be better than Sam including not sharing the 'trade secrets'. Worst case he gets cut, gets paid and try's to get onto another team.

But honestly his best option would be to bring along Sam. Earn a reputation of being a good teammate and try to get a 10 year back up career out of the deal.. 

 

But I wouldn't blame the guy if he was an ass to Sam.. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
WarHeel Mentor

WarHeel

Posted
Posted (edited)
22 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It affects roster decisions.

Lord knows it did with Ron.

The question you posed was black and white but I believe it’s a gray issue. NFL teams are a business and the fans are consumers. Handling a release like DG did Steve Smith and Josh Norman sours the sweetness for some fans. Not many will care if Bridgewater has his feelings hurt though. 

Edited by WarHeel
Link to comment
Share on other sites
onmyown Grand Master

onmyown

Posted
Posted

So when FA players chase the money 99% of the time are they more worried about their team’s feelings or business?

That’s the issue - players never want to hear the screwed over a team by doing this yet the real butthurt comes out when a franchise let’s them go.

It truly is a business just like any job - the it’s a family atmospheres where they keep a shitty employee because of anything other than business are fuging hell to work for, no thanks.

Fans say but what about player relations? I say yea what about the relations with the younger, promising players who get fuged with zero playing time because of a vet/fan favorite bias? 

Lord knows Rivera and Fox to a lesser extent had some long ass lists of those. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TheSpecialJuan Grand Master

TheSpecialJuan

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

So a reporter asked Matt Rhule today if he thought it would be fair to ask Teddy Bridgewater to mentor Sam Darnold.

Rhule's response?

"I don't really believe in fair or unfair in professional sports."

Loosely translated: "I don't give a sh-t."

 

Ron Rivera always wanted to help be sure players ended their careers on their best terms. Matt Rhule doesn't really seem to be especially worried about that. He appears to be more of a "do whatever it takes to win" guy.

I'm curious which approach fans are more comfortable with.

Terrific response 

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
RJK Grand Master

RJK

Posted
Posted

I’m all for it. You can preach we are family but at the end of the day players(like Olsen) are going to do what’s in their best interest...even after everything the team does for them. Play well or kick rocks. I don’t care if you win nice guy of the year every year. It’s nice to behave like a professional sports team and not a Sunday school. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
frankw Grand Master

frankw

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, onmyown said:

So when FA players chase the money 99% of the time are they more worried about their team’s feelings or business?

That’s the issue - players never want to hear the screwed over a team by doing this yet the real butthurt comes out when a franchise let’s them go.

It truly is a business just like any job - the it’s a family atmospheres where they keep a shitty employee because of anything other than business are fuging hell to work for, no thanks.

Fans say but what about player relations? I say yea what about the relations with the younger, promising players who get fuged with zero playing time because of a vet/fan favorite bias? 

Lord knows Rivera and Fox to a lesser extent had some long ass lists of those. 

Are you okay? Why do you have so much anger for players who are the ones actually risking themselves for entertainment and not the billionaires who hold fans over a barrel with things like psls whether the franchise is good or bad? On top of all that the same billionaires expect taxpayers to foot the bill for what amounts to a gigantic billion dollar amusement park.

  • Poo 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Scott12345 Grand Master

Scott12345

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, CanadianCat said:

I dont think its as simple as some on here are making it sound. 

Some back up QB's (Anderson for example) have extended their careers because of their willingness to do this.. some choose not to.

Really the choice is up to Teddy. Teddy will have to decide if he thinks he can be QB1 or if he wasn't to reside as a high-end back up option. 

If he thinks he can be QB1 then I expect he will use every advantage he has to be better than Sam including not sharing the 'trade secrets'. Worst case he gets cut, gets paid and try's to get onto another team.

But honestly his best option would be to bring along Sam. Earn a reputation of being a good teammate and try to get a 10 year back up career out of the deal.. 

 

But I wouldn't blame the guy if he was an ass to Sam.. 

it doesn’t matter what teddy does...Sam is our QB

what is Sam going to learn from the guy he is replacing...and who cares?

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Scott12345 Grand Master

Scott12345

Posted
Posted
49 minutes ago, frankw said:

Are you okay? Why do you have so much anger for players who are the ones actually risking themselves for entertainment and not the billionaires who hold fans over a barrel with things like psls whether the franchise is good or bad? On top of all that the same billionaires expect taxpayers to foot the bill for what amounts to a gigantic billion dollar amusement park.

Seriously?...these players get paid millions 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Icege
      Tetairoa McMillan

      By Icege · Posted

      So you think that the play is solely Bryce's fault and that all 31 other QBs turn that play into a passing TD in spite of an incorrect route from WR1, immediate blindside pressure, a lazy route on the opposite side, and WR2 not on the same page as the QB? That's a lot of oversimplification just to be able to blame one player.
    • Gapanthersfan
      Is Tepper going to clean the house again after this season?

      By Gapanthersfan · Posted

      The thing with cleaning house… who the hell wants to actually work for Tepper?! What good coach with options would take that gig? There are literally 31  better teams to work for…. This is the WORST place for a coach to work… and it’s not even close. Auto-firing staff after 1-2 years will only make things worse.  If candidates know they are going to be auto-fired when being dumped in to an impossible situation, then why even apply? Tepp has to show candidates that he’s calmed the f down. The best thing is for him to not make any major franchise decisions for a while.  Just imagine where we would be right now with Wilks, Darnold, Foreman, Luvu, Moore,  the king’s ransom they were offered for Burns and the picks they traded away for Young… tell me with a straight face that blowing all of that up was the right move compared to where we are today. Wilks and Darnold were bridges to a better place.  My point being, EVERY major franchise decision from Tepp has been a disaster. He blows everything up, even if it shows signs of potential. He has refused to hire a ‘my way or no way’ type coach with proven NFL success.  I promise you he doesn’t have a friend in the entire building.  besides changing out Evero who has been given years to make it work, this is the best case scenario for the foreseeable future until the next draft. I don’t think Canales is the right coach for the job, but tying him to Young isn’t fair. He deserves at least another season with his own guy that he chooses. 
    • LinvilleGorge
      Tetairoa McMillan

      By LinvilleGorge · Posted

      Yeah, he did. But what absolutely killed any chance of success is that our QB panicked and sailed the ball through the endzone uncatchable. That's why the focus is on that. Why do we need to do all these mental gymnastics to keep trying to come up with excuses to cover for the worst starting QB in the NFL over the past three years? What else do we kneed to see from him to admit he ain't ir? You don't trade up to #1 overall to draft a QB that needs everything to go perfectly to succeed. You're doing that because you think you're drafting a guy who can carry an offense.
×
×
  • Create New...