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52 minutes ago, BlitzMonster said:

I think Pat Elflein is likely a JAG.   Not meant in a bad way.   Just an average OL.   Which is fine.  His position versatility is a plus.  

Erving I'm not as confident in.   I think he could start at LT because of the off-season promise when he was signed and then be benched because of poor play after 3 games.  

One rookie on the OL is fine.   That's probably due to merit.   Two rookies starting means either they are playing incredibly well or there's been a massive breakdown in the OL and we're just throwing bodies at it in hopes it will get fixed.  

 

You will like Elflein.  What are you basing your assumption on?  I have watched him when watching Darnold tapes--#67--check him out.  I think you are wrong, and I am sure that won't bother you.

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

You will like Elflein.  What are you basing your assumption on?  I have watched him when watching Darnold tapes--#67--check him out.  I think you are wrong, and I am sure that won't bother you.

Seems we saw different clips/videos. A couple days after he signed, I searched around twatter and found clip after clip of him getting rag-dolled. First time in a while I felt sorry for a player, it was like 2019 Vita Vea vs paradis over and over. He did give me some hope by saying he had a thumb injury that prevented him form lifting weights. By god he looked weak. He did look fairly good in space and pulling, moved well. 

Im in wait and see mode for Elf and not giving the panthers or him any built in injury excuses either. For me hes the insurance policy for this season and the C in waiting after Paradis leaves after the season is over. Hes GOT to get stronger. 

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12 hours ago, MHS831 said:

You will like Elflein.  What are you basing your assumption on?  I have watched him when watching Darnold tapes--#67--check him out.  I think you are wrong, and I am sure that won't bother you.

Teams screw up and players can improve, but he didn’t cut by Minnesota by accident. That is a team that is perpetually OL-needy (like most), and they had a third round pick invested in him. So there is certainly support for thinking he’s not good

Granted, I think some talent is there and it does seem he put together some solid games with the Jets, but I agree with the sentiment that he’s probably just a JAG - which again, is fine as a low-end starter or versatile backup, but expecting more is a fool’s errand.

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It also depends how these guys are being used. I don’t know how Elf and Erving were used last year, but they seem like zone blocking guys. Christensen might be better in zone too, which might make things difficult for Brown to become a starter. I’m assuming we start off Scott/Erving, Elf, Paradis, rookie/Miller, Moton with hopefully Christensen taking over LT before the season is over and a rookie taking the RG job from Miller. I think Elf and Erving are going to come in handy while these rookies are learning/developing. They seem like they are both bridge players with the potential to take over the center position in a year or so.

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On 5/8/2021 at 12:08 PM, BlitzMonster said:

What about Trent Scott ?  He did OK as a fill-in when Okung went down.  He was poached from the Chargers under the advice of our OL coach Pat Meyer (who previously coached him in LA).  

As an UDFA I love that fact that he's continued to get better over the years. 

 

I think he's actually better than he got credit for.

As to rebuilding the line, my sense is that some of the free agents we signed might be bridge guys as we look to draft longer-term solutions.

Sewell falling to us probably would have helped that a lot but c'est la vie.

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