Texans now indicate Deshaun Watson is available for trade

[LinvilleGorge]

8 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Players have agents and lawyers to balance the power and eliminate coercion.  

If you're offered a bad contract, don't sign it.  

If you sign it, be prepared to fulfill you end, if you want to be paid.  

So if the team offers a player say a five year contract, I want to see you howling like crazy when the player is cut after three years because the team did not fulfill their end of the bargain.

Teams have the ability to terminate contracts. Players have the ability to utilize the media and threaten holdouts. That's the way this works.

[Mr. Scot]

10 hours ago, bigskypanthersguy said:

Personally I'd kick the tires on Rodgers.  He might be getting a little long in the tooth but he could likely get us by until we managed to draft his replacement somehow.

Rodgers is mending fences with Green Bay. 

 

[ForJimmy]

30 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Players have agents and lawyers to balance the power and eliminate coercion.  

If you're offered a bad contract, don't sign it.  

If you sign it, be prepared to fulfill you end, if you want to be paid.  

Players have a right to speak out/sit out and teams have a right to cut them. Look at GB scrambling around trying to appease Rodgers and it’s all acceptable via their contract.

[MHS831]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rodgers is mending fences with Green Bay. 

 

makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.  He is such a great person.

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

An acknowledgement that the only avenue a player has is to utilize whatever leverage he may hold. The team will always hold the leverage of being able to terminate the contract. Barking to the media, threatening to hold out, actually holding out, up and retiring like Barry Sanders or Calvin Johnson. That's the only real leverage a player holds yet you act like they've committed this grave dishonor by actually utilizing any of that leverage.

Each only holds the "leverage" afforded them in the contract they mutually agreed to.  

 

So you're position seems to be the players signed a crummy deal...

...whose fault is that?

Whomever it is, that's where your anger and efforts should be directed.  

Hint:  It ain't the owners.

 

 

Edited July 27, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[frankw]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Certainly seems that something is amiss in GB.

Or this could just be the beginning of a new chapter in the nfl in the age of pandemics and vaccines. More and more players are getting ideas of their own. Much like with how Watson tried to hold the Texans over a barrel Aaron Rodgers has followed in those footsteps. Deshaun was just arrogant to think none of his activities would ever come to light or could be used against him. Rodgers for whatever people may think about his personality doesn't have that baggage. Now he reaps the rewards. I don't think we have seen the last of elite quarterbacks pulling these stunts.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

Or this could just be the beginning of a new chapter in the nfl in the age of pandemics and vaccines. More and more players are getting ideas of their own. Much like with how Watson tried to hold the Texans over a barrel Aaron Rodgers has followed in those footsteps. Deshaun was just arrogant to think none of his activities would ever come to light or could be used against him. Rodgers for whatever people may think about his personality doesn't have that baggage. Now he reaps the rewards. I don't think we have seen the last of elite quarterbacks pulling these stunts.

What other team has multiple key players voicing displeasure? Sure, there are always some vets angling for new deals or otherwise expression displeasure across the league every year, but when there are multiple key players on one team something is probably up.

[SizzleBuzz]

59 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

So if the team offers a player say a five year contract, I want to see you howling like crazy when the player is cut after three years because the team did not fulfill their end of the bargain.

This makes no sense.  

Question, do you believe Deshaun Watson and Aaron Rodgers signed bad contracts?

59 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Teams have the ability to terminate contracts.

Only of the player agreed to give them that right, in the contract.  

59 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Players have the ability to utilize the media and threaten holdouts.

Absolutely they do. They can scream, pout, whine, jump up & down all they want...

...in no way does this sort of juvenile behavior obligate the team to react or modify the contract.  

Off to play golf with some rich guys, seeya later

Edited July 27, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[frankw]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

What other team has multiple key players voicing displeasure? Sure, there are always some vets angling for new deals or otherwise expression displeasure across the league every year, but when there are multiple key players on one team something is probably up.

You think there is some resentment in the locker room? These are grown men but it stands to reason not everyone who may just be trying to get that next contract and maintain their career will be thrilled with Rodgers who has already accumulated a fortune over the years.

[CarolinaLivin]

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Asked about Deshaun Watson, Panthers GM Scott Fitterer says focus is on the guys that are here

-Joe Person

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, frankw said:

You think there is some resentment in the locker room? These are grown men but it stands to reason not everyone who may just be trying to get that next contract and maintain their career will be thrilled with Rodgers who has already accumulated a fortune over the years.

Seems likely. When there are multiple players unhappy something is usually amiss in the organization or within the locker room.

[LinvilleGorge]

8 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

This makes no sense.  

Question, do you believe Deshaun Watson and Aaron Rodgers signed bad contracts?

Only of the player agreed to give them that right, in the contract.  

Absolutely they do. They can scream, pout, whine, jump up & down all they want...

...in no way does this sort of juvenile behavior obligate the team to react or modify the contract.  

Off to play golf with some rich guys, seeya later

Your logic is very one sided. It's fine for the team to exercise their leverage, but the player is juvenile to exercise his.

A psychologist would have a field day with you. Enjoy your day of caddying.

[AU-panther]

Teams have every right to cut a player, if players don’t like that should ask for 100% guarantees.

Players have very right to not report and be unhappy about their contracts.

Right or wrong this is the current CBA that they both agreed upon.

Would not surprise at all if the owners tried to implement a rule in the next CBA that a player or team could not renegotiate any deal until one year left in their current contract. if that was to happen you might see a lot of players looking for shorter term deals so they can take advantage of rising salaries.  

 

[ForJimmy]

Sizzle getting ready to golf with the “rich guys.”