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Rhule is in charge per the Old Guy

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Plenty of old school coaches had full control. Hell, some didn't even have a GM to work with. Jimmy Johnson with the Cowboys is arguably the most successful example, but you also had guys like Bill Parcells, Mike Shanahan and even Butch Davis (granted, that was probably a mistake). If you go back further to the days of guys like Vince Lombardi, Don Shula and Paul Brown, it was even more common. 

But did any of them old guys ride an Appaloosa? Inquiring minds want to know.

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

It isn't new, special, unique or revolutionary at all.

Plenty of old school coaches had full control. Hell, some didn't even have a GM to work with. Jimmy Johnson with the Cowboys is arguably the most successful example, but you also had guys like Bill Parcells, Mike Shanahan and even Butch Davis (granted, that was probably a mistake). If you go back further to the days of guys like Vince Lombardi, Don Shula and Paul Brown, it was even more common. 

The most notable recent example is probably Pete Carroll who's had full control since she took the Seahawks job, but before him Mike Holmgren had the same thing. And there are others as well, like that guy up in Massachusetts whose name escapes me at the moment 🤔

So yeah, we're not doing anything "non-traditional" whatsoever. This model is as old as the league itself. 

 

Hey who does Fitterer report to?

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On 8/2/2021 at 2:45 PM, Mr. Scot said:

It isn't new, special, unique or revolutionary at all.

Plenty of old school coaches had full control. Hell, some didn't even have a GM to work with. Jimmy Johnson with the Cowboys is arguably the most successful example, but you also had guys like Bill Parcells, Mike Shanahan and even Butch Davis (granted, that was probably a mistake). If you go back further to the days of guys like Vince Lombardi, Don Shula and Paul Brown, it was even more common. 

The most notable recent example is probably Pete Carroll who's had full control since she took the Seahawks job, but before him Mike Holmgren had the same thing. And there are others as well, like that guy up in Massachusetts whose name escapes me at the moment 🤔

So yeah, we're not doing anything "non-traditional" whatsoever. This model is as old as the league itself. 

What a tradition huh?

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On 8/1/2021 at 2:07 PM, top dawg said:

https://www.panthers.com/news/ask-the-old-guy-mattresses-pork-and-line-play

What does the organizational chart look like? Is it David Tepper > Matt Rhule = Scott Fitterer, or Tepper > Rhule > Fitterer? Are the coach and GM considered equals, or does one report to the other? Based on what I know about how Tepper ran his other businesses, my guess is the latter. — Jay, Hermosa Beach, Calif.

These questions always feel like traps, because it almost suggests a level of conflict or wielding superiority that doesn't appear evident.

To make a long story short, Rhule runs football here. Tepper paid him a lot of money to come here and build something according to his design. He and Fitterer both report to Tepper, but Rhule's in charge. Rhule and Fitterer have a good and complementary relationship, and the chemistry and respect they have shown as they get to know each other seems genuine. But yeah, if you want to make a chart, Rhule is the top non-Tepper name on it.

 

So, there you have it. One of life's mysteries pertaining to the Panthers' hierarchy of power, has been answered by Darin Gantt.

And before someone says Hurney had more power, the hiring of Matt Rhule effectively cut Hurney's power off at the knees. But, even if you just stubbornly refuse to accept that "truth", you know who to "blame" from this point forward. Until Tepper says otherwise, the buck stops with Rhule!

And this is why, after 21 years of season tickets, I’m telling the Panthers to kiss my ass 

David Tepper in 3 seasons has ruined this team   Anyone who believes otherwise is drinking homer kool aid 

more power to them. You too can cough up $7k for this loser 

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