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8 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

So what you're saying is, we need to bring in the Saints offense and load up on talented receivers and TE's.

well, you also need the QB talent that thrives in a NFL passing scheme.  Joe Burrow didn't have loads of talent at Cincy.  He had no OL and  his  #1 was a rookie WR....and still was pulling it off looking sharp.  Talented QBs find a way to shine bright even in bad spots.  Special dudes are special. 

The Golden Calf of Bristol and Joe Burrow fit different schemes.  It's why Joe couldn't break through the Urban depth chart.  And it's why The Golden Calf of Bristol can't play in the NFL. 

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23 hours ago, rayzor said:

Unless they are elite talent (taken really early) rookie OTs probably don't need to be starting or getting much play time, especially early. They wear roller skates and are more a liability than anything. Work them in gradually.

Not the end of the world honestly and yea unless they are a top talent at all in the draft it can be better to wait. If he doesn't end up working out they may have to adjust their idea of dropping in the draft so often when a good OL is available. 

At the end of the day they have their system and they are at least using it consistently so as with any system even if it has its successes you will not hit on everything obviously.

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7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

And progressively got worse each year under Gase?

well, Tannehill got hurt. 

Darnold only had 1 real year with Gase.  Which was his "good" year.  They went full tank mode this year from the jump.   

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4 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Not the end of the world honestly and yea unless they are a top talent at all in the draft it can be better to wait. If he doesn't end up working out they may have to adjust their idea of dropping in the draft so often when a good OL is available. 

At the end of the day they have their system and they are at least using it consistently so as with any system even if it has its successes you will not hit on everything obviously.

 

At the end of the day. All you can do is do your work, and make the best decision you can. If you have a quality information gathering system in place. You have to trust it. Even if you miss from time to time.

 

And right now. It appears we are doing pretty well implementing that plan.

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4 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

No argument there. 

Know what that ultimately means? They didn't want Fields. 

All we know was what they said on it here:

They felt Darnold + Horn was better value for the team than Fields alone or Fields + Darnold. It’s easy to understand the thinking behind it even if I disagree. 

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12 minutes ago, Varking said:

All we know was what they said on it here:

They felt Darnold + Horn was better value for the team than Fields alone or Fields + Darnold. It’s easy to understand the thinking behind it even if I disagree. 

and Phil Snow thought it was a great idea.  In fact, Darnold initially was the DCs idea.  Crafty move Phil.  Team with no QB and no OL in back to back drafts...keeps spending their first round pick on guys for you. 

the Philappaloosa model lol.  I mean Phil Snow is getting some beasts.  

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

and Phil Snow thought it was a great idea.  In fact, Darnold initially was the DCs idea.  Crafty move Phil.  Team with no QB and no OL in back to back drafts...keeps spending their first round pick on guys for you. 

the Philappaloosa model lol. 

 

Do you have any proof of this statement? Sounds real iffy to me.

 

At the start of last year it was largely held, we had very little talent.

 

This year? There is talk of Playoffs. This team is improving. But you can't enjoy it, cuz we didn't do it the way you would want?

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24 minutes ago, CRA said:

well, Tannehill got hurt. 

Darnold only had 1 real year with Gase.  Which was his "good" year.  They went full tank mode this year from the jump.   

Darnold got hurt last year. He had a shoulder injury and missed several games because of it.

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4 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

Do you have any proof of this statement? Sounds real iffy to me.

 

same interview with Rich Eisen where he said he thought Darnold + Horn was better overall for the team than drafting Fields. 

Which isn't the same thing as him saying he thinks Darnold is better than Fields.  

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