Just how bad has Robby Anderson been?

[PantherPhann89]

Robbie Anderson has had a great deal of accurate passes come his way. A lot of them were strongly contested throws and off target throws. But we do expect what we got last year with Teddy. If our genius OC was as advertised and could've scored in the red zone, maybe we'd still Teddy and 2 WR's projecting over 1k yards again with a 3 WR taking toward it.

[Snake]

2 hours ago, mav1234 said:

Brady and Darnold are trying to force the ball to Robby to help him get over his yips.  It is hurting everyone involved. 

I actually miss Zylstra in the passing game. That is ... a bad sign.

Yeah we have enough yips with Darnald. 90% of the balls should be going to Moore. 

[glenwo2]

6 hours ago, Snake said:

Yeah we have enough yips with Darnald. 90% of the balls should be going to Moore. 

And the other 10% should be going to a combination of Tremble, TMJ, and Ian Thomas.

The only throw I'd make to Chuba is a toss. 

 

Of course, that's all if Sam actually wasn't air-mailing them, special-delivery, to the opposing team.

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, glenwo2 said:

And the other 10% should be going to a combination of Tremble, TMJ, and Ian Thomas.

The only throw I'd make to Chuba is a toss. 

 

Of course, that's all if Sam actually wasn't air-mailing them, special-delivery, to the opposing team.

Yeah, all those guys are dropping the ball, though.

That is why I am inclined to give about 50% of all these drops(as a team) to Darnold and his lack of accuracy and timing. 

If it were just Robby struggling with drops, I would say it is clearly a Robby issue. That isn't the case, though.

[Khyber53]

Just bench Sideshow Bob and see how bad he wants to get back into the game. This leaving him in play to see if he can find himself is detrimental to the team and is apparently not working for him.

 

[glenwo2]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, all those guys are dropping the ball, though.

That is why I am inclined to give about 50% of all these drops(as a team) to Darnold and his lack of accuracy and timing. 

If it were just Robby struggling with drops, I would say it is clearly a Robby issue. That isn't the case, though.

Well against the Vikings, one could make the case that the Receivers were at fault.

Not against the Giants, though.   That game was all Sam's Suckage.

[kungfoodude]

19 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Well against the Vikings, one could make the case that the Receivers were at fault.

Not against the Giants, though.   That game was all Sam's Suckage.

Yeah, the amount of drops was nuts in that game. Sam still had his fair share of the blame. After all, he tried to kill DJ and he did kill TMJ.

[Harbingers]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, all those guys are dropping the ball, though.

That is why I am inclined to give about 50% of all these drops(as a team) to Darnold and his lack of accuracy and timing. 

If it were just Robby struggling with drops, I would say it is clearly a Robby issue. That isn't the case, though.

Robby is head and shoulders above the rest of them with drops though(38ish %). Tremble is a rook, Ian Thomas has had drop issues no matter the QB since we drafted him. TMJ had a ok catch rate(63 something) before he caught the ouch ball, which I don’t really consider to be a hospital ball, he was targeted, the aggressor should have been ejected. But they all still are above 50% I believe.  

Yes, Darnold is still part of the issue, the offense just seems to flow better when he doesn’t even look Robbies way. I simply think the two guys don’t jive and probably have issues going back to the jets that were overlooked/ignored by the staff. 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

Just bench Sideshow Bob and see how bad he wants to get back into the game. This leaving him in play to see if he can find himself is detrimental to the team and is apparently not working for him.

 

If Robby does what he does this week I would bench him.  Marshall should be back by then.   Promote Willie Snead and run with DJ, Marshall, Shi and Snead.  Snead isn't great but he can catch a ball and run the right route... and is savy enough to use in a small role if need to limit the rookie loads. 

[Khyber53]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

If Robby does what he does this week I would bench him.  Marshall should be back by then.   Promote Willie Snead and run with DJ, Marshall, Shi and Snead.  Snead isn't great but he can catch a ball and run the right route... and is savy enough to use in a small role if need to limit the rookie loads. 

Robby has literally managed to make himself not just ineffective, but disposable.

I think that we may still be on the hook for $12.5 million in remaining guaranteed money. Is it worth the roster spot to cut him, or do we just make him sit on the bench and collect checks?

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Robby has literally managed to make himself not just ineffective, but disposable.

I think that we may still be on the hook for $12.5 million in remaining guaranteed money. Is it worth the roster spot to cut him, or do we just make him sit on the bench and collect checks?

I mean, we overpaid.  That said, he has talent.  I wouldn't cut him.  I'd  see how he pairs with whoever you have at QB next year.   But he isn't going to live up to that deal.  But he needs a QB to throw him into space and not have him battling for balls.  

and Robby could have some legit stuff going on that we don't know about.  So there is always that.  Remember, he was the only one that didn't show to the non-mandatory stuff this offseason.   There was always a weird vibe coming in this year.   Super hero football players are just people.  So he could have stuff going on this year and just not be there mentally.   Which, that is life sometimes.   The fact he is worse than NYJ Robby just makes no sense on face value. 

[KatsAzz]

 Andersons problems are not all Darnold's fault. Joe Brady and Anderson himself have to take up part of the blame. Some of the play calls that Brady dials up have Anderson to where he is maybe the third or fourth read in Darnold's progression.

That shouldn't be the case. I've also noticed a lot of Robby's routes take a long time to develop, meaning that Brady is sending him downfield fairly often. To get Anderson going and to get Darnold back on track, throwing in some quick slants, crossers, and five-yard digs could be the solution.

Then there's also the drops, which leads to yet another discussion of Andersons problems.

[Harbingers]

56 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, we overpaid.  That said, he has talent.  I wouldn't cut him.  I'd  see how he pairs with whoever you have at QB next year.   But he isn't going to live up to that deal.  But he needs a QB to throw him into space and not have him battling for balls.  

and Robby could have some legit stuff going on that we don't know about.  So there is always that.  Remember, he was the only one that didn't show to the non-mandatory stuff this offseason.   There was always a weird vibe coming in this year.   Super hero football players are just people.  So he could have stuff going on this year and just not be there mentally.   Which, that is life sometimes.   The fact he is worse than NYJ Robby just makes no sense on face value. 

I think it’s simply Darnold and Robbie don’t mesh well. One of them should go after this season. Unfortunately we are big dead money either way. 

[CRA]

32 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

 Andersons problems are not all Darnold's fault. Joe Brady and Anderson himself have to take up part of the blame. Some of the play calls that Brady dials up have Anderson to where he is maybe the third or fourth read in Darnold's progression.

That shouldn't be the case. I've also noticed a lot of Robby's routes take a long time to develop, meaning that Brady is sending him downfield fairly often. To get Anderson going and to get Darnold back on track, throwing in some quick slants, crossers, and five-yard digs could be the solution.

Then there's also the drops, which leads to yet another discussion of Andersons problems.

A lot of time what Sam is staring down.....isn't actually the primary read though.   The defense actually dicatates often what the read primary read becomes.  Or it should in theory when your QB isn't Darnold.  That is what the ex-QBs have been pointing out Darnold does so poorly.   Just becaue Darnold locks onto someone right away, that doesn't mean that is where the play actually sets up and he is suppose to be looking.