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We have a bunch of traffic cones that don't know what to do in pass pro we call linemen. When asked to go smack someone, they were not bad today, or most of the year. That's the white flag we finally raised. Took too damn long to do that. We hinted at it earlier this year, and didn't do it. Finally bit the bullet and didn't go pass happy all f'n day. F you Brady for not doing this a week earlier or more. Cost us atleast a game. Also finally committed to running with a straight heavy lineup. Again bout damn time! Worked in 2015 too, with a much worse pool of WR, But they caught balls at least.

We all know we need more out of the passing game, but CMC out and dropsies everywhere as well as a happy foot QB all lead to what we saw today: a staff that realized they must go the way the running game goes.

There are many levers that lead us here but I am glad they adjusted. 

Yes Sam is undoubtedly one of those that has been off too. 

I'd still contend with a wr corp that doesn't drop tds (that was a weak drop by Moore, bad call too but really can't hang on there thru the ground man?), lead the league in drops (+4 more today), a line that doesn't let everyone up the middle who dares to run a stunt against them, then we can maybe see just how serviceable he could be. The current BS makes it harder where he sits in the scheme of the NFL. Too many times he makes a throw and it's dropped. Makes a throw off perfect target, dropped. Others are just bad reads. It's really tough as some was really bad reads that gets us stuck others are bad drops. Like idk if he is baker Mayfield (that's a awesome line!) or David Carr right now.

We all screamed last year that it was all on teddy, really, are we still sure? I don't think teddy is that much better, just different.

As for Sam, he made the big throws he needed to on 3rd downs. Something we missed before today, but also wasn't asking to be way behind and need long conversions like normal. Big thing in the 1st games was not getting so far behind the sticks with CMC plus a much better safety valve in CMC. It's old ugly 1900 football today, but that's where we are. A better running team that can sprinkle in the pass right now.

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Just now, CRA said:

Gronk is the GOAT of TEs.  

you seem to be unable to admit Sam has something to do with high drop amount.   I simply talk about all the factors that are going into it.   
 

the “drops” cost us just as much as having a QB so bad that it forced our staff into that game plan. 

 

Ozzie Newsome, Charlie Sanders, Sterling Sharpe, Tony Gonzales. lol @ Gronk.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't have a vendetta against him. I'm not upset at Darnold. He is what he is. I'm upset at the decision makers who brought him here expecting something different. The OL featuring Bell at LT and Chandler at RT was even worse than this one. You just clinged to Darnold because he looks like what you want a your QB to look like. Sorry it didn't work out 

You are ridiculous. 

I cling to him because it's the most arm talent we have seen here in years.

Plan and simple.

Nobody should have expected him to come in and be top 20 this year. That was unrealistic. 

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2 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

oh come the fug on.... 🤣

This is the NFL, not some church social.

"Asking a lot."  Oh poor receivers have to do their fuging jobs and not drop passes...BOO HOO. 

it depends on which balls we are talking about.

but yes, Sam has a role in plenty of them.  That’s football.  

take the Freeman one.  It’s why Aikman, a fellow QB, initially was just going to blame Freeman.  Then he watched the replay and went on and on about what a bad ball it really was to ask of your RB.    That’s  the QB being part of the reason it was an incompletion.  That happens in football. 
 

Cam did it often on short passes throwing them 200 mph.  The QB was lowering odds of success because of the ball thrown.  Cam could hit someone in the chest and it be low odds of being caught because the WR was 4 yards away. 

 

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3 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

So? What does that have to do with you a Mod, race baiting someone? 

I'll say it again, you're not familiar with that poster's history in these matters.

Why don't you start your own forum? You can moderate it however you see fit. Ban anyone who offers the slightest of negative feedback. I mean, you won't have many posters but you'll have the echo chamber that you seek.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You're not familiar with this poster.

Yeah, it's time for a change. You should leave. You're obviously not happy here and it's miserable for you. Pull the plug.

 

I may not be perfect. But your Race Baiting, coming from a mod, has to be unacceptable.

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8 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

 

Nobody should have expected him to come in and be top 20 this year. That was unrealistic. 

If you aren't top 20 in your 4th NFL season you're a bust. Plain and simple. That means you're basically in the bottom third of starting NFL QBs. Which he is. He's basically the worst non-rookie starter in the league.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

If you aren't top 20 in your 4th NFL season you're a bust. Plain and simple. That means you're basically in the bottom third of starting NFL QBs. Which he is. He's basically the worst non-rookie starter in the league.

Every rookie that played today was asked a lot more of than Sam was today. 

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