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Proudiddy Grand Master

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13 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Darnold and Teddy are good players?

we had 4 1k yards from scrimmage skill position players with someone who could actually run the offense but couldn’t stretch the field. 
 

you literally just said Darnold can’t do poo. So what is Brady suppose to do?

The point being that Teddy looked underwhelming in the same system.  The skill players could rack up all the yards after the catch because Teddy is accurate and quick to get the ball out to the open read, so they got tons of YAC.  But, as you pointed out he couldn't stretch the field either.  And even with Teddy, the offense was abysmal in the redzone and goal to go situations.  Brady and Rhule tried to pin the offensive struggles on Teddy, while Teddy pointed out their shortcomings, which many felt was just sour grapes at the time.  If Teddy looked subpar in this system, and Darnold went from bad to possibly the worst QB to ever play in the NFL in the same system, then the problem is the system and the coaching implementing it.

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1 hour ago, Proudiddy said:

The point being that Teddy looked underwhelming in the same system.  The skill players could rack up all the yards after the catch because Teddy is accurate and quick to get the ball out to the open read, so they got tons of YAC.  But, as you pointed out he couldn't stretch the field either.  And even with Teddy, the offense was abysmal in the redzone and goal to go situations.  Brady and Rhule tried to pin the offensive struggles on Teddy, while Teddy pointed out their shortcomings, which many felt was just sour grapes at the time.  If Teddy looked subpar in this system, and Darnold went from bad to possibly the worst QB to ever play in the NFL in the same system, then the problem is the system and the coaching implementing it.

Teddy's bounce back in Denver this season also adds more evidence that last year's problems weren't just because of him. 

Last year Teddy was 23rd in QB rating among starting QB's.  This year he's 10th.  And he didn't just magically become a lot better in 12 months.  

It was the Carolina coaches and their poor fitting  / ill designed system which led to Teddy's low 2020 rating.  

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2 hours ago, BlitzMonster said:

Teddy's bounce back in Denver this season also adds more evidence that last year's problems weren't just because of him. 

Last year Teddy was 23rd in QB rating among starting QB's.  This year he's 10th.  And he didn't just magically become a lot better in 12 months.  

It was the Carolina coaches and their poor fitting  / ill designed system which led to Teddy's low 2020 rating.  

I'm not sure if it's the system so to speak.  Teddy moved the ball fine.  It was mostly dump offs, but it worked and we obviously racked up yardage.  Red zone was about 100% of the problem and without TD's, that will kill a QBs rating and screws up the TD/int ratio that factors in and QB's are often judged off of.  I think it may have been more the play calling.

The only thing that does give me pause however is the longer throws.  He seems to have no issues this year compared to last year.  I am not sure what to think of that.  Looking at stats now though, his air yards is slightly higher this year, but his QBR is actually quite a bit lower.  TD's is significantly higher, but otherwise his stats are all very, very similar this year to last.  Outside of TD's, he definitely looks better this year, but statwise, only somewhat.

tldr - So after all those words, I think it's not the system, just was the play calling or play design in the red zone.

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6 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Was telling a non-Panther-fan friend about his struggles recently, and mentioned how now, even when he scrambles and completely gets away from the pressure, he'll still elect to run it for a short gain over throwing it to a playmaker like DJ who comes open to the side he is scrambling on, just so he won't have to throw it.  He plays scared, and it has nothing to do with pressure...  he doesn't trust what he's seeing or doing on any given play.  When in the pocket, he can't read the defense or process it well enough to be sure of the throw he needs to make, and it is just as evident even when he gets out of the pocket.  

There is no fixing that.  If guys don't have the mental aspect of QBing, they aren't ever going to succeed, no matter who the coach is or the personnel around them.

Missing the clutch gene. You've got to be a raging fire, unwilling to back down or give up. Jake had it.

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