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Trade Down only option for 2022 draft?

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We don't have that many holes.  QB and OL are the only two areas we absolutely must improve at.  Secondary, LB, DL, RB, WR could all stay the same and we'd be fine.  When you consider the money we'll have and what we could add in FA especially, I'd rather see what options we have in the 1st round than committing to trading down.

If it turns out trading down is the best option, then yeah.  But if a great tackle or guard or QB prospect is there for us in the 1st, I think we have to pull the trigger.

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Don't like how everyone's just assuming we're getting a top 10 pick 

Reality  is we already have 4 wins and wining even just 2 more would drop us to a mid rounder easily. As bad as the panthers are we already beat two teams we have to face again in ATL and NO, still have to play questionable  WFT and Dolphins, and may play a bucs team resting starters late in the year .

Not to mention how games have been turning out lately lot of seemingly poo teams have been beating good teams..

You also can't assume we're getting exactly what we want in terms  of a trade down. Other teams aren't fuging stupid when they see panthers have no 2 or 3 they're not going to give up the farm for some mid round 1. They'll lowball Fiterrer on purpose because  they know the panthers are desperate  to get multiple picks to rebuild the o line and possibly a qb pick

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17 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Or trade players for picks.

This is really what we should have been doing instead of trading picks for players. You should never do that unless your a deep playoff contender and fitterer did that with a rebuilding team and roster .so all that does is make the rebuild more difficult  which is where we are at right now. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

Don't like how everyone's just assuming we're getting a top 10 pick 

Reality  is we already have 4 wins and wining even just 2 more would drop us to a mid rounder easily. As bad as the panthers are we already beat two teams we have to face again in ATL and NO, still have to play questionable  WFT and Dolphins, and may play a bucs team resting starters late in the year .

Not to mention how games have been turning out lately lot of seemingly poo teams have been beating good teams..

You also can't assume we're getting exactly what we want in terms  of a trade down. Other teams aren't fuging stupid when they see panthers have no 2 or 3 they're not going to give up the farm for some mid round 1. They'll lowball Fiterrer on purpose because  they know the panthers are desperate  to get multiple picks to rebuild the o line and possibly a qb pick

Yup if we're picking around 15, for someone to move up from the mid 20's they might give us a 4th. Maybe a 3rd if we swap some later round pick positions. The window to get picks for players closed last week, could have maybe gotten a 3rd or 4th for one of our cornerbacks or DE's to a playoff team. Lots of guys are free agents after this year

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