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KSpan Grand Master

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11 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Lol whatever. 

At no point during his time in the league has he ever looked like someone who was more than a low-tier starter, even in NO where he rode the wave. Dumping Cam for Teddy in the first place was a red flag and lo and behold we saw exactly how that played out, and continues to play out in Denver.

With that said Cam is not the Cam of old and will not be saving the day. However, he offers dynamics and hopefully an indication that the brain trust is evolving in their decision making, particularly around the QB position. Sucks that the hold is so deep now though.

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5 minutes ago, KSpan said:

At no point during his time in the league has he ever looked like someone who was more than a low-tier starter, even in NO where he rode the wave. Dumping Cam for Teddy in the first place was a red flag and lo and behold we saw exactly how that played out, and continues to play out in Denver.

With that said Cam is not the Cam of old and will not be saving the day. However, he offers dynamics and hopefully an indication that the brain trust is evolving in their decision making, particularly around the QB position. Sucks that the hold is so deep now though.

Your thoughts on Teddy who is a top 15 QB in this league is of no consequence to the fact that Rhule sealed his fate by dumping a competent QB and turning the team over to someone who won't even be in this league outside of a back up role. 

Going back to Cam was the best choice seeing how Rhule bungled this whole thing from the start. 

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2 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

If Tepper stepped in and overruled Rhule, that doesn't bode well for Matt.

Head Coaches don't tend to last long after they lose the trust of their employers.

Nothing has changed...

...Tepper has been a party to major decisions all along...

...it's the Appaloosa Way.  

Rhule is fine.  

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20 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Your thoughts on Teddy who is a top 15 QB in this league is of no consequence to the fact that Rhule sealed his fate by dumping a competent QB and turning the team over to someone who won't even be in this league outside of a back up role. 

Going back to Cam was the best choice seeing how Rhule bungled this whole thing from the start. 

Top 15... statistically perhaps, but not a chance in reality. Only the rookies (and maybe not even Mac Jones), Daniel Jones, Hurts, Darnold after the last couple of weeks, and Tyrod could be argued as worse starting QBs and Tyrod might even be a bit better; even Wentz and Goff have shown the ability to win games when the chips are down. Teddy is an undynamic player with no guts, and suck as he has even Darnold completed a 96 yd game-tying drive with the clock winding down, something Teddy failed at 8 times last year with a better OL and better receivers. It was clear by the end of the year that the situation with Teddy was untenable, be it Rhule's fault or otherwise, and the mistake was giving the keys to Sam uncontested.

Other than that I agree with your final sentence. This whole series of events just should never have happened. It will be interesting to watch the team and coaching dynamics over the coming weeks with Cam coming back into the fold. Wonder if Rhule's tune and/or tone change. Guy's got a lot left to prove IMO.

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4 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Top 15... statistically perhaps, but not a chance in reality. Only the rookies (and maybe not even Mac Jones), Daniel Jones, Hurts, Darnold after the last couple of weeks, and Tyrod could be argued as worse starting QBs and Tyrod might even be a bit better; even Wentz and Goff have shown the ability to win games when the chips are down. Teddy is an undynamic player with no guts, and suck as he has even Darnold completed a 96 yd game-tying drive with the clock winding down, something Teddy failed at 8 times last year with a better OL and better receivers. It was clear by the end of the year that the situation with Teddy was untenable, be it Rhule's fault or otherwise, and the mistake was giving the keys to Sam uncontested.

Other than that I agree with your final sentence. This whole series of events just should never have happened. It will be interesting to watch the team and coaching dynamics over the coming weeks with Cam coming back into the fold. Wonder if Rhule's tune and/or tone change. Guy's got a lot left to prove IMO.

Statistics are reality, they are a quantitative metric of how a quarterback compares to his counterparts.

You're talking about one drive that Sam Darnold pulled out of his bum in a game he sucked for the majority of. I'll rather have consistency than a flash play here or there. 

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16 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Statistics are reality, they are a quantitative metric of how a quarterback compares to his counterparts.

You're talking about one drive that Sam Darnold pulled out of his bum in a game he sucked for the majority of. I'll rather have consistency than a flash play here or there. 

Statistics lie, and/or don't always tell the whole story. I'm definitely not saying that Sam is better because of one drive but it goes to show what Teddy lacks, and it's a critical thing.

From a Cam perspective we know he has that factor. Question now is what else might still be there. Just such a dumb series of events to even arrive at this point.

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