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Some insight into McCaffrey...


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1 minute ago, Catsfan69 said:

The counter to your argument is that if Cmac had the Dallas line from the 90s or the Steelers line from the Cower era he might score like Bo Jackson in Tecmo Bowl. 

These scrub running backs aren't able to take full advantage of the line being great when you have one.

They aren't scrubs

like Zeke is washed already drafted in just 2016 when Pollard a 4th rounder isbarely a drop off and with Zeke they still won nothing. Bet the Cowboys would rather have any of those after him but especially.... Hell that Cowboys with Jalen Ramsey or Bucker lol not even close to a debate.

Then Derrick Henry was there in the 2nd Where they took Jalen Smith who is now out...

The Cowboys had already drafted OL currently to even be in that position and was still the not hindsight worst move and a poo move.

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Another point to this story is that it shows Tepper as a decision maker to extend CMC. I get the feeling Tepper is an “involved owner” on football decisions. This is rarely a good thing and could be why this team has only won 22 games in nearly 4 seasons since he has been the owner.

2018:  7-9

2019: 5-11

2020: 5-11

2021: 5-7

 

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3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Because we are years away from sniffing a championship

We need 3 ol and a QB and a Mike and we are set.

 

Unfortunately we have an idiot in charge that won't use this time left in the season to evaluate Brown and Christensen. 

But a good center a good guard and an average LT would go far.

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

Great thread.

Pretty amazing that Hurney is so god damn stupid enough to buy high for real. OH THIS GUY HAD A GOOD SEASON WITH TWO YEARS LEFT LETS MAKE A DEAL!

Instead of letting it play out FFS this team has been managed by children

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6 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Pretty amazing that Hurney is so god damn stupid enough to buy high for real. OH THIS GUY HAD A GOOD SEASON WITH TWO YEARS LEFT LETS MAKE A DEAL!

Instead of letting it play out FFS this team has been managed by children

Hurney contract yes but he did what he was told. Our new owner had hired a new coach jettisoned Cam Newton and needed a face to sell tickets that's what it was about. Hope it was worth it.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Cam Newton was "getting the dog crap beat out ofhim". Thus, they needed someone that wouldkeep opposing defenses from focusing on Newton alone.
 

 The Panthers were looking for a back who could take some of the wear and tear off quarterback Cam Newton, who’d been battered and beaten throughout the post-MVP and post-Super Bowl season of 2016.

We may be the only team in the league dumb enough to think we need a running back instead of an offensive line to help keep our QB from getting annihilated every game.

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

Hurney contract yes but he did what he was told. Our new owner had hired a new coach jettisoned Cam Newton and needed a face to sell tickets that's what it was about. Hope it was worth it.

Yea it makes no sense right...like what did Tepper expect that CMC was going to have an even better eyar somehow lol...like wahh

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A word about Khary Darlington, the scout referenced in the first article...

He was considered a rising star in the scouting department but he disappeared from the Panthers (and pretty much the world) mid 2017.

The timing makes it seem a strong likelihood that Darlington was the employee whom Jerry Richardson used a racial slur against, and that he subsequently took a settlement with a non-disclosure agreement. That would explain his falling off the face of the earth right when it looked like he was headed for great things.

Thanks again, Jerry 🙄

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