Knowing what you know now about Rhule, would you rather have kept Rivera?

[TNPanther]

Rhule has been an abject failure IMO, and I think we’d be in the same if not better spot if Rivera was retained.

[hepcat]

I would have rather kept Rivera and fired Hurney. 

[BlackPanther21_]

We had to move on, it was just time. It was clear we were not going anywhere with him after 2015. But if it comes down to Rivera vs. Rhule, give me Rivera 10 times out of 10.

[Mr. Scot]

I would rather have replaced Rivera with someone other than Matt Rhule.

[CRA]

Ron would have kept Cam going into 2020.  That singular move likely would have put us in a better big picture position than hiring Rhule.  

Rhule paid Teddy/Sam, picked up a 5th year and traded away our draft picks. 
 

I mean the Ron window ended.  Ron knows that.  Panthers went about replacing Ron in the worst way possible.   would have rather kept Ron another year and replaced him with someone not named Matt Rhule. 

[Carolina Cajun]

No, because he was in a rut here of keeping and over valuing old players, we were old as poo in 2018, none of the youth on our team would have been used much less developed had he stayed.  Moving on was the right move for us and for him, our problem was over valuing how rhule pitched his analytics.  

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, BlackPanther21_ said:

But if it comes down to Rivera vs. Rhule, give me Rivera 10 times out of 10.

Yeah.

Just don't pair him with Marty.

Edited December 7, 2021 by Mr. Scot

[CRA]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah.

Just don't pair him with Marty.

Marty should be a paid consultant to only have input in one decision.  A top 10 draft pick.   Then you hang up. 

[rayzor]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I would rather have replaced Rivera with someone other than Matt Rhule.

This 100%. Fire Rivera, hire better.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

This 100%. Fire Rivera, hire better.

Or to put it another way, you fire Ron Rivera but you give the job of hiring his replacement to somebody other than Marty Hurney.

(also somebody who is not David Tepper)

[Harbingers]

17 minutes ago, hepcat said:

I would have rather kept Rivera and fired Hurney. 

Ditto. See if Ron’s game improved without that atrocious GM. If it didn’t than amicably part ways. 

Edited December 7, 2021 by Harbingers

[hepcat]

Just now, Harbingers said:

Ditto. See if Ron’s game improved without that atrocious GM. If it didn’t than amicably part ways again. 

We already knew Rivera could be better without Hurney. Gettleman proved that and I wouldn't say he was even that much better than Hurney. 

[Waldo]

It was right to let Rivera go, it was time. Keeping him would have been wrong. Looking at WTF I'm not jealous.

Rhule was a bad hire but Tepper also kept Hurney so no real surprise there. 

I'm ready for the next option, I'm not missing the past or soon to be past. 

 

 

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, hepcat said:

We already knew Rivera could be better without Hurney. Gettleman proved that and I wouldn't say he was even that much better than Hurney. 

Gettleman was another horrible GM.  It would have been nice to of seen Ron Rivera paired with a decent GM. 

I still think his time was up.  But it would have been interesting to see what played out of the Gettlemen hire would have actually been a good one.   And we know Gettlemen was horrific.  He showed that elsewhere.