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Knowing what you know now about Rhule, would you rather have kept Rivera?

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Knowing what you know now about Rhule, would you have rather kept Rivera?  

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  1. 1. Knowing what you know now about Rhule, would you have rather kept Rivera?

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To this day, I would have still fired Rivera in 2014 pre-SB run.  We didn't make that run because of him.  His crews can bring a team to a playoff contender floor but that's about it.  Needs the players to do the rest.  McD was also a big part (who don't forget we interviewed in contention with Rivera before bringing both in HC+DC)

McDermott may not have been ready yet back then but who really knows.  Looking ahead--I see 4 totally respectable and pretty darn certain upgrades in Hackett, Daboll, Pederson, & Eberflus.

They should strongly be considered to replace Rhule and get things back in order.

 

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

Ron would have kept Cam going into 2020.  That singular move likely would have put us in a better big picture position than hiring Rhule.  

Rhule paid Teddy/Sam, picked up a 5th year and traded away our draft picks. 
 

I mean the Ron window ended.  Ron knows that.  Panthers went about replacing Ron in the worst way possible.   would have rather kept Ron another year and replaced him with someone not named Matt Rhule. 

Not exactly sure he would have kept Cam

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25 minutes ago, Darvinsun said:

Not exactly sure he would have kept Cam

He was under contract.  Ron Rivera wasn't cutting Cam in Carolina.  

Ron didn't sign Cam in Washington and frankly that was the right call.  You can't go to Washington and literally repeat Carolina with Ron/Cam.  That wasn't what he was hired to do there. 

   

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

He was under contract.  Ron Rivera wasn't cutting Cam in Carolina.  

You're assuming that was Ron's call to make.

Most of the evidence I've seen says otherwise.

Jourdan Rodrigue, Joe Person and others reported long ago that Rivera and Marty Hurney both wanted to offer Newton an extension but David Tepper said no.

I don't think it's guaranteed that Rivera staying on another year would have meant a different ending for Newton.

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Moving on was the correct decision.  

By keeping Rivera the statement made would have been that the organization was fine with status quo.   No one, including the owner wanted complacency which is why Ron is gone.  So far that has not worked out.  
 

Still, as the saying goes,  better to try and fail than fail to try.  

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