Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

I'm willing to give Sam one more year if the team fixes the O-line

Gipetto

By Gipetto,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

Cpt slay a ho Mentor

Cpt slay a ho

Posted
Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, onmyown said:

uh yea ok it’s the oline fault unless it’s Darnold It’s not hard to see cam is god awful 

Your reading comprehension is broken, get out your feelings, I’ve said multiple multiple times neither qb can succeed, but I’m not paying 18-19 mil for what darnold has shown when by some accounts on here the “lesser” qb has performed just as well while not being here the entire season and getting paid a fraction of what darnold will be next year.

facts over feelings 

Edited by Cpt slay a ho
Link to comment
Share on other sites
chbright Mentor

chbright

Posted
Posted

You need 3 if not 4 spots on the line to be fixed. Best case, 2 if somehow Christensen and brown BOTH work out leaving LT (massive issue) and center (massive issue) both to fix with 1st and no 2nd and lots of other missing picks. If you trade out of the likely top 10 pick, you can say goodbye to a top LT unless you expect a lot of luck/stupidity by the rest of the league. And finding the stud C as a rookie in 3rd plus, good luck. 

 

They completely screwed the pooch this year with the FA handouts to TERRIBLE OL with years and $ left. I'm not sold they know what a good OL look like in the NFL. 1st Rhule has gotten a mediocre line and completely let it go to poo. 2nd while at Seattle, it's not like FITT exactly got expert training on finding OL in the draft. Seattle struggled to find guys to keep Russ clean.

 

So you are pinning the hopes on 2 guys that so far haven't found a way to ever build a line to make Sam, who has looked bad behind any line, look serviceable. 

 

And if brown and Christensen don't pan out, you need 2 more that the luck in round 1 and 3...... So yeah this OL is screwed. But there is a bunch here that said early in the year it was fixable in one off-season and OL talent fell off trees in FA. like we saw this year, took a lot of swings and struck out on all of them, most teams don't let OL go if they are worth it, or you overpay on them.......

Link to comment
Share on other sites
MillionDollarCam Grand Master

MillionDollarCam

Posted
Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, ThPantherFan said:

Not completely fixed but enough to give the QB protection.  It has to be.

I’m honestly not so sure.

A lot rides on Christensen, if he can be a serviceable LT then we only need two guards and a center. If he fails then add the most expensive spot on the line to the above list.

Not to mention, we have a lot of guys currently on the roster who need new contracts which will eat into our cap space.

Oh, and we don’t have a second or third round pick.

Rhule and company fugged this team up for the foreseeable future.

Edited by MillionDollarCam
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
onmyown Grand Master

onmyown

Posted
Posted
2 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Your reading comprehension is broken, get out your feelings, I’ve said multiple multiple times neither qb can succeed, but I’m not paying 18-19 mil for what darnold has shown when by some accounts on here the “lesser” qb has performed just as well while not being here the entire season and getting paid a fraction of what darnold will be next year.

facts over feelings 

Here is a fact Darnold is already paid and you’re not going to be able to trade him. He is the perfect lame duck while the rookie sits for next season and fresh start 2023. Pay cam is just more money for more trash. Makes zero sense.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Cpt slay a ho Mentor

Cpt slay a ho

Posted
Posted
Just now, onmyown said:

Here is a fact Darnold is already paid and you’re not going to be able to trade him. He is the perfect lame duck while the rookie sits for next season and fresh start 2023. Pay cam is just more money for more trash. Makes zero sense.

You can trade darnold, it’s going to be hard but it can be done, again I’m not wasting 19 mil on what I’ve seen from him.

if cam is trash and has performed as well as darnold off the couch what does that make darnold, you are not helping your weird argument at all 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • SmokinwithWilly
      Which Round Will Carolina Draft Sawyer Robertson?

      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

      No matter what we still need a QB2 with potential to be a QB1. Keep throwing QBs at the wall until we find someone who sticks.
    • strato
      Panthers bring back TE Feleipe Franks

      By strato · Posted

      Lot of different agendas dictating opinions.  I don’t think it was the best use of money with Hunt, specifically, but the concept of OL, I am a fan. I didn’t complain a ton because I am a believer in winning up front, on both sides of the ball. I’d rather have stout fronts than fancy WRs. I have complained some about Hunt not being worth his deal, after seeing him get pushed around in a game or two. It’s no crusade. And have complained in the context of shorting the defense.   They have leveled out the FA imbalance with the dual big signings this offseason, and it has always been the draft picks I am most protective of. Anyway The picks are the real imbalance. If you did a trade chart value of the picks we directly gave up for Bryce, and added the support picks invested for skill players, and put that on one side… then put the little 3 3rd rounders and a 2nd that the defense got over three years on the other it would be hugely out of balance. I just want the balance restored. Defense is still owed.    
    • SmokinwithWilly
      Panthers bring back TE Feleipe Franks

      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

      I'm one of the ones that won't let it go because it didn't solve the problem. We didn't address the center position which was a huge mistake. We were in position to easily take 2 or the top IOL. Instead of drafting JPJ over XL or Frazier over Brooks, we relied on an oft injured guard to center conversion and lo and behold, it failed as predicted. XL looks like a 1 year college wonder and an injured Brooks hasn't even surpassed Eric Shelton.  Bryce was also benched for poor performance, so the issue that many claimed was solely bad oline play wasn't. It didn't fix him bailing out of tight pockets because of being unable to see the field or him refusing to work on his atrocious footwork. Then there's the $$$. Lewis got a good guard payday. Hunt got a tackle payday. Pay tackles, draft guards, if you can.  I have no issues addressing problems through FA. It was not addressing C at all that's been the issue and still has been. Ryan Kalil was the anchor of our offensive line. We had years of solid center play and it showed. Now we're still piecemealing the center position with an expensive oline and it's still a shitshow. Why? Because the player responsible for what happens on the line presnap has little to no experience doing it. We did acquire a FA center this year finally. We'll see how much that impacts the line.  Spending on a center, whether it be through draft or FA is not bad. It's not a position that can have anyone just thrown in with no drop off in performance. A great center lifts the play of the guards on each side.  I don't like how we've built the line because we've ignored the hinge pin that everyone counts on every play. And the reality of the situation is, it didn't solve the actual problems with Bryce because those have nothing to do with the oline. 
×
×
  • Create New...