It doesn't get clearer than this.

[BlueCheese]

You think that means anything to Tepper?

Tepper gave 7 years because it's going to take time

[rippadonn]

1 hour ago, Zod said:

Records for college coaches hired directly to NFL for 1st two seasons

Jim Harbaugh 24-7-1
Chip Kelly 20-12
Bill O'Brien 18-14
Butch Davis 16-16
Nick Saban 15-17
Doug Marrone 15-17
Kliff Kingsbury 13-18-1
Steve Spurrier 12-20
Greg Schiano 11-21
Matt Rhule 10-21
Bobby Petrino 3-10 

 

From 4manrush

[rippadonn]

I've always said here on this site that Jim Harbaugh was the sure money as the most legit "college" hire out there.

Numbers prove that. Former Panthers backup QB also.

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

Yeah, it’s just a dumb set of cherry picked stats. It predicts nothing.   

Johnson had no salary cap and got the benefit of the Herschel Walker trade because the Vikings GM at the time was an idiot.

It's fair to point out that most college coaches these days do tend to fail.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

2 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

I've always said here on this site that Jim Harbaugh was the sure money as the most legit "college" hire out there.

Numbers prove that. Former Panthers backup QB also.

While true, Jim has a reputation for not playing well with others.  

If rumors that Matt Rhule is clashing with the Panthers southern culture are true, imagine the pushback that Jim Harbaugh would generate within the organization.

[rippadonn]

1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

While true, Jim has a reputation for not playing well with others.  

If rumors that Matt Rhule is clashing with the Panthers southern culture are true, imagine the pushback that Jim Harbaugh would generate within the organization.

He's done great at Michigan, he's a former Panther, they speak glowingly of the actual building he's done.

 

[SCO96]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Johnson had no salary cap and got the benefit of the Herschel Walker trade because the Vikings GM at the time was an idiot.

It's fair to point out that most college coaches these days do tend to fail.

Jimmy Johnson was a great evaluator of talent, and he was really was the key to the rapid turn around in Dallas. But, you're right about that trade. He wouldn't have been able to win those Super Bowls as quickly if not for the extra draft choices.

When he got to Miami he was able to field a competive team and drafted some good players (Sam Madison, Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor), but he didn't come close to accomplishing what he did in Dallas. Some of that is because he wasn't able to draft as many top players as quickly as he did with the Cowboys.

Here's what Jimmy Johnson received after fleecing the Vikings.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/140116-the-best-trade-in-nfl-history

In 1989, at the peak of Walker's NFL career, the Cowboys sent Herschel Walker to the Vikings for five players and six draft picks.

The players were LB Jesse Solomon, DB Isiac Holt, RB Darrin Nelson, LB David Howard, and DE Alex Stewart.

The picks turned into players such as Emmitt Smith, Russell Maryland, Kevin Smith, and Darren Woodson.

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[NanuqoftheNorth]

6 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

He's done great at Michigan, he's a former Panther, they speak glowingly of the actual building he's done.

True.  However, some coaches personalities are better suited for college ball. 

This article suggests that Harbaugh may prefer coaching at the college level because it allows him to have more control over his players.

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-49ers-got-rid-of-jim-harbaugh-2014-12#:~:text=Harbaugh won 44 regular-season,four years with the 49ers.&text=The overwhelming consensus is that,couldn't work there anymore.

[Catsfan69]

Rhule and Snow talking to Tepper

 

 

[Pimpdaddy]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Johnson had no salary cap and got the benefit of the Herschel Walker trade because the Vikings GM at the time was an idiot.

It's fair to point out that most college coaches these days do tend to fail.

I thought there were similarities with rhule and Johnson... because the both had psychology degrees...lending to the fact they know how to motivate the mind of a player...as it turns out...rhule is just a megalomaniac....poor tep...he getting sucked in...

[BurnNChinn]

Does Tepper care, I don’t think so. He’s ball less and won’t be a man to talk to media to give answers.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, TheRumGone said:

It’s not even about the record for me. We look worse this year than last with any easier schedule this year. I normally agree about giving coaches 3 years as long as you’re seeing something after 2 even if the record doesn’t show that. We flat out suck and look lifeless. He needs to go now.

This. I'd feel differently if there were signs of progress. Quite the opposite.

 

[TheProcess]

Chip Kelly? That dude left the Eagles and 2 years later they won the Super Bowl. Then he left the 49ers and 2 years later they played in the Super Bowl. 

Replace Rhule with Kelly for next year, then get rid of Kelly. Super Bowl 2 years later!  Lmao

[CMAC22]

3 hours ago, philit99 said:

We need to hire Harbaugh, that’s what I pray happens. We fire Rhule, and go get Harbaugh. He could turn us around in 2-3 years, otherwise it will be a moving 5 year window.

Jim Harbaugh was my number 1 choice for the job before we unfortunately hired Rhule