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With your number 6 pick Daniel Jermiah mocks you...another corner

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29 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

Would we have drafted Sewell instead of Horn because he was available?  Most reports say we would have.

If that was because LT was bigger need, then under your logic and we draft for need, we would have took Slater, but we didn't.  We must have factored in grade.

 

Did you watch the draft episode of camp confidential? It showed their draft board or top few choices.  Sewell was number 1 then I think horn and broncos corner 

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1 hour ago, Varking said:

If we are thinking defense… trade down, get more picks and select Jordan Davis to clog the middle with Derrick Brown for the next few years. I’d really like an offensive lineman or two in this class though. 

We could use a guy like Davis but passing up on elite OT/IOL for him would be upsetting.

Lots of problems to fix but little draft capital to do so. 

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46 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

Would we have drafted Sewell instead of Horn because he was available?  Most reports say we would have.

If that was because LT was bigger need, then under your logic and we draft for need, we would have took Slater, but we didn't.  We must have factored in grade.

 

But Rhule didn't see Slater as a LT, but instead a G.

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Wonder if that is what he thinks we should do or is just predicting what he thinks we will do. 

again, Fitt game from org who had an all time great secondary.   Which to an extent they lucked into.  and Matt Rhule’s success has always been playing to a defense. 

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50 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yes we would have drafted Sewell. The Slater pass is a prime example of the poor evaluation. Then Rhule doubled down afterwards.

Hence my point. We suck at evaluating players AND we suck at positional value.

but you said we draft based on need.  If we would have took Sewell that means OT was our biggest need, then why didn't we take Slater?  Maybe they do look at BPA some.

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29 minutes ago, CRA said:

Wonder if that is what he thinks we should do or is just predicting what he thinks we will do. 

again, Fitt game from org who had an all time great secondary.   Which to an extent they lucked into.  and Matt Rhule’s success has always been playing to a defense. 

Yeah, they didn't build that secondary by investing years worth of top picks into it. Richard Sherman and Kam Chancellor were 5th round picks. Brandon Browner was a UDFA. Earl Thomas was the lone premium pick, #14 overall.

So yeah, if you can build an elite secondary out of one 1st rounder and falling ass backwards into the rest of it with 5th rounders and a UDFA... sure. 

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2 hours ago, AU-panther said:

but you said we draft based on need.  If we would have took Sewell that means OT was our biggest need, then why didn't we take Slater?  Maybe they do look at BPA some.

All defensive draft, CB at 8, etc.

BPA would have been Slater. Remember their eval on him was that he was just a guard

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

All defensive draft, CB at 8, etc.

BPA would have been Slater. Remember their eval on him was that he was just a guard

You said we don't draft BPA, we draft need.  But then you said we would have took Sewell if he had been available, so based on that we should have drafted the next LT on our board, but we didn't so in fact we don't draft purely on need and we do factor in value.

 

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9 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

You said we don't draft BPA, we draft need.  But then you said we would have took Sewell if he had been available, so based on that we should have drafted the next LT on our board, but we didn't so in fact we don't draft purely on need and we do factor in value.

 

Slater was not a LT on our board. He was a guard. Doesn't matter if he was an awesome rookie LT. The team didn't see him that way ...

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Just now, La Pantera said:

Slater was not a LT on our board. He was a guard. Doesn't matter if he was an awesome rookie LT. The team didn't see him that way ...

that's not the point.

someone tried to say we draft on need and don't consider value.  If Sewell would have been picked over Horn, as many claim then that would suggest OT was our biggest need.  If we truly did draft just based on need then we would have picked the next OT on our board, if that wasn't Slater it would have been a different OT.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

that's not the point.

someone tried to say we draft on need and don't consider value.  If Sewell would have been picked over Horn, as many claim then that would suggest OT was our biggest need.  If we truly did draft just based on need then we would have picked the next OT on our board, if that wasn't Slater it would have been a different OT.

 

 

You are really digging deep for something that isn't there.

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